School needs to make up their mind

[ramblinwise1]

GT is recognized everywhere I have traveled. Didn't Kruschev and Nixon sing our fight song? I wonder how conference affiliation helps with a school's "brand development."

All the famous popular references to Ga Tech, the fight song in movies, the Kruschev/Nixon event, Marilyn Monroe visiting campus and photo shoot in a Tech sweater, all those things came from Tech's football prowess, not academics. Jus sayin'.

 

[ThisIsAtlanta]

All the famous popular references to Ga Tech, the fight song in movies, the Kruschev/Nixon event, Marilyn Monroe visiting campus and photo shoot in a Tech sweater, all those things came from Tech's football prowess, not academics. Jus sayin'.

 

[ramblinwise1]

Tech will struggle on the APR front if it brings in student-athletes with weaker academics. If the NCAA were to allow the APR timetable to based on what the typical student does, then we'd get something more like a six-year schedule for the student-athletes, and I think you could bring in weaker students.

This is why having a lower requirement major would be better than just granting more exceptions.

 

[andrew]

This is why having a lower requirement major would be better than just granting more exceptions.

Would you propose that the major be open to student athletes only or do we allow in anyone who wants to graduate from the school without going through a rigorous academic curriculum?

For example, if someone is about to fail out because Tech is too difficult for him, could he just switch to this major and still call himself a Georgia Tech grad?

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[cuzjacket]

Would you propose that the major be open to student athletes only or do we allow in anyone who wants to graduate from the school without going through a rigorous academic curriculum?

For example, if someone is about to fail out because Tech is too difficult for him, could he just switch to this major and still call himself a Georgia Tech grad?

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Sure you would allow anyone to take it. But from what you and others have said, Tech only has the most serious of students, so why would any of those serious students want to take a lesser route at Tech? Problem solved.

 

[DressCheeseSideSeaboard]

Would you propose that the major be open to student athletes only or do we allow in anyone who wants to graduate from the school without going through a rigorous academic curriculum?

For example, if someone is about to fail out because Tech is too difficult for him, could he just switch to this major and still call himself a Georgia Tech grad?

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Instead of the M-train, we could have the Communications subway.

 

[andrew]

Sure you would allow anyone to take it. But from what you and others have said, Tech only has the most serious of students, so why would any of those serious students want to take a lesser route at Tech? Problem solved.

We have a lot of people fail out. Now a bunch of people who weren't smart or hardworking enough to get through Tech before will be entering the workforce representing Georgia Tech.

That will directly affect the value of a Georgia Tech degree as the average "hit rate" for companies hiring a Tech grad (and headhunters placing them there) will drop.

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[BuzzCzar]

We have a lot of people fail out. Now a bunch of people who weren't smart or hardworking enough to get through Tech before will be entering the workforce representing Georgia Tech.

That will directly affect the value of a Georgia Tech degree as the average "hit rate" for companies hiring a Tech grad (and headhunters placing them there) will drop.

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but before this happens we will win at least 2-3 extra games a year and not be made fun of by our dwag cousins, so it will be totally worth it

and i am sure the NCAA will really love this and that the BOR will totally go for it too

/idiot talk

 

[ramblinwise1]

Andrew, of course it would have to be open to the whole student body. And it wouldn't be basket weaving or African-American studies, take the HSTAC degree and knock off some of the sharp edges, reduce the calculus requirement to algebra and such.

Half the student body isn't going to immediately bail to this degree just to have an easier path. Admit the athletes into this program initially and then limit total enrollment if you are worried about it growing to be a huge number. It won't.

This would "devalue" existing grads with this degree I guess, but its relatively new and there aren't that many of them. Won't affect the value of an ME or EE at all. If you did what I outlined without much fanfare, hardly anyone outside the school would even know you made a change.

 

[ramblinwise1]

We have a lot of people fail out. Now a bunch of people who weren't smart or hardworking enough to get through Tech before will be entering the workforce representing Georgia Tech.

That will directly affect the value of a Georgia Tech degree as the average "hit rate" for companies hiring a Tech grad (and headhunters placing them there) will drop.

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No no no. HWFO.

 

[ThisIsAtlanta]

No no no. HWFO.

You don't think deliberately allowing a whole program's worth of weak students to earn degrees from Tech every year would eventually weaken the value of the degree?

What ----ing planet are you from?

 

[andrew]

Andrew, of course it would have to be open to the whole student body. And it wouldn't be basket weaving or African-American studies, take the HSTAC degree and knock off some of the sharp edges, reduce the calculus requirement to algebra and such.

Half the student body isn't going to immediately bail to this degree just to have an easier path. Admit the athletes into this program initially and then limit total enrollment if you are worried about it growing to be a huge number. It won't.

This would "devalue" existing grads with this degree I guess, but its relatively new and there aren't that many of them. Won't affect the value of an ME or EE at all. If you did what I outlined without much fanfare, hardly anyone outside the school would even know you made a change.

I think you are very out of touch with the current Tech environment. People bail to the easiest major all the time; it happens so often that it is a running joke around the school.There would be a lot of people who currently can't cut it switching to this major and graduating.

And I really don't see how you can say reducing the quality of the average Tech grad won't reduce the value of a degree. Right now the Tech name is a differentiator because, among other reasons, there is a great chance of getting an outstanding worker if you hire a Tech grad, no matter the major. Dilute the grad pool and that becomes less and less true.

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[andrew]

Double post.

 

[BuzzCzar]

You don't think deliberately allowing a whole program's worth of weak students to earn degrees from Tech every year would eventually weaken the value of the degree?

What ----ing planet are you from?

oldwhitemanfantasyland, its just to the right of idiotworld

 

[ramblinwise1]

I think you are very out of touch with the current Tech environment. People bail to the easiest major all the time; it happens so often that it is a running joke around the school.There would be a lot of people who currently can't cut it switching to this major and graduating.

And I really don't see how you can say reducing the quality of the average Tech grad won't reduce the value of a degree. Right now the Tech name is a differentiator because, among other reasons, there is a great chance of getting an outstanding worker if you hire a Tech grad, no matter the major. Dilute the grad pool and that becomes less and less true.

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Dude there is nothing new under the sun! People have tried to bail to easier majors since there were majors.

If you have a cap of 200 students in the degree program everyone can't bail into it. You admit the athletes into at time of admission so they are in. Everyone else is wait listed. How do you think this works at the other schools, Meechigan, UNC, ND, other schools. They have these degrees and they are not overrun by dumbasses. And it doesn't hurt their reputation in one iota. They infact outrank Tech in the National Rankings.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Dude there is nothing new under the sun! People have tried to bail to easier majors since there were majors.

If you have a cap of 200 students in the degree program everyone can't bail into it. You admit the athletes into at time of admission so they are in. Everyone else is wait listed. How do you think this works at the other schools, Meechigan, UNC, ND, other schools. They have these degrees and they are not overrun by dumbasses. And it doesn't hurt their reputation in one iota. They infact outrank Tech in the National Rankings.

ok, your idiot status is now fully confirmed

we know how they did it at UNC, you wanna do that? cool

 

[ramblinwise1]

You don't think deliberately allowing a whole program's worth of weak students to earn degrees from Tech every year would eventually weaken the value of the degree?

What ----ing planet are you from?

You guys obvious want to make this personal. Keep up the sarcasm and denigrating anyone who posts with an opinion different from yours. Guess what, I ain't going away!

One more time: its done all the time by schools that somehow maintain better academic ratings than us, so if you think that it would be a bid deal, you are the one from a different planet.

 

[DressCheeseSideSeaboard]

Your the idiom.

 

[ramblinwise1]

ok, your idiot status is now fully confirmed

we know how they did it at UNC, you wanna do that? cool

:wicked:

 

[andrew]

ok, your idiot status is now fully confirmed

we know how they did it at UNC, you wanna do that? cool

That's exactly what it will lead to, especially if it's capped so that only student athletes can get in.

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