USA today's Myerberg's CFB ranks kicks off with #125:GSU

GT1992

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The main point to the entire thing is that Georgia Southern football has not grown since 1990. Average attendance has not changed all that much. Being the most successful team to take the field in FCS didn't change the situation much. The program is stagnant, aside from moving forward to FBS.

As for "a couple of years of two or three wins", people tend to talk out of both sides of their mouth on this one. On one hand, you say that we're recruiting the same talent as the current lower tier, and that the lower tier is "the new FCS". In the next breath, you say we'll win two or three games.

Those statements don't really jive.

As for the money changing (even in the event of a few bad years), the numbers I listed aren't really impacted by success. BCS teams are still going to pay for an FBS win. Students are paying the fee whether we're winning or not. The Sun Belt payout is going to be relatively the same for a period of time. Those numbers are quite static.
Average attendance can't go up much without expanding the stadium.

If you're planning on taking advantage of all those big paydays, you won't be playing the same FCS schedule. That's where it does jibe. Guess what, things will be static once again, what are you hoping for? A Big East invitation? It's become tight at the top of the BCS, so much that UConn is now an afterthought. What I envision Southern as, is an upside of CFU and downside of GSU. I think you'll compete fine in a few years in the Sunbelt, but there will be growing pains.
 

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Average attendance can't go up much without expanding the stadium.

If you're planning on taking advantage of all those big paydays, you won't be playing the same FCS schedule. That's where it does jibe. Guess what, things will be static once again, what are you hoping for? A Big East invitation? It's become tight at the top of the BCS, so much that UConn is now an afterthought. What I envision Southern as, is an upside of CFU and downside of GSU. I think you'll compete fine in a few years in the Sunbelt, but there will be growing pains.
We already play one money game a year, so that's not changing anything. The only difference will be in a year like 2014 (a rarity), where we play three such teams: GT ($750,000), NCSU ($750,000), Navy ($500,000).

Navy is even a potential win, if our previous meeting is any indication.

The stadium is being expanded to over 20,000 in time for the 2014 season.
 

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I didn't see an answer so ill ask again. Why is Ga State rushing into FBS so quickly? Southern makes sense to me because they have developed a tradition and a fanbase.

State has neither.
 

ThisIsAtlanta

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Looking forward to following these, that was a pretty interesting read on a pretty uninteresting program.
 

05GTCorndog

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Didn't there used to be minimum attendance requirements for FBS membership?
 

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I think Georgia Southern will become a respectable mid-major program, much like Southern Miss, Ohio University, or Middle Tennesse State. They have an alumni and fan base that supports the program and they have a solid reputation.

I expect our old night division, which aspires to be taken seriously as a research institute, to eventually hire a president who tires of pouring money into a football program that will probably never be successsful competing against Georgia Southern or Kennesaw State. Georgia State can't compete against the dregs of FCS. They won't do much better against the dregs of FBS. Moreover, unlike Southern, they lack an on-campus stadium, have no fanbase (with actual attendance closer to 3,000 than announced attendance), and will have to hope for any attention at all (given that U[sic]GA, Georgia Tech, and Georgia Southern will all likely continue to have winning seasons most years).

Our old night division wants to shake its image of being a commuter community college, and it has academic programs and research opportunities that will allow it to do just that. But a losing football team in an empty stadium will not help them do that.

Moving to FBS is not an elixir---membership in FBS is rapidly expanding. As this happens, being in FBS will not confer the same recruiting advantage that it once did. The big factor for recruiting already is, and will continue to be, membership in an elite conference.

I would not be shocked to see 150 teams in FBS by the end of the decade.
 
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BuzzCzar

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sometime magically when Georgia Southern College got the "university" tag they suddenly think they are GSU. pretty cute, now wipe the snot off your nose and look at reality

Southern it is
 

BainbridgeJacket

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I believe the legislature should pass a resolution that requires programs be referred to as the following by all sports journalists as a matter of clarification.

Tech
State
Southern
KSU
Uga
There should never be a tv announcer who disrespects us by calling vpisu tech or having to clarify between the two. So long as they're in Georgia, they should have the decency to respect our schools accordingly.
 

MacDaddy2

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What FBS recruiting advantage? They're going into their first year of FBS and have been recruiting the second tier Atlanta area guys, just like Southern does in the boonies. Both schools are getting the kids that the SEC and ACC leave behind. I'm not saying they're not good talent, just that it's less. What recruit has Southern lost to an FBS school? That's why they were able to dominate FCS, now they have to use the same talent to compete in the Sunbelt. There isn't some magical elixir about being low level FBS.
You realize that the Ga. SOuthern game will be an absolute dogfight in 2014?
 

Keyser Soze

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You realize that the Ga. SOuthern game will be an absolute dogfight in 2014?
I've made a öööö-my-pants bet before and lost but I think I could bet against this and not have to soil myself.
 
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