RULES at spring practice coverage....

demjackets said:
Very well could and the coaches know that, its happened before. This is for the fans, our fans want open practice, the coaches do not really like the idea but they are doing it for the fans. They just don't want the fans to abuse the privilege of watching open practice. Practice reports are great and they have no problems with them for the most part, its the video that irked them, they don't want someone to sit there and record practice, common sense.
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Years ago, Tech had prepared a series of wishbone plays for a game in Knoxville against Tennessee. When Tech broke huddle and went into wishbone formation, the Vols defense immediately shifted to defend it without hesitation. They also had the right defenders on the field. A few days after the game, Tech coaches found out that this will picked up by Tennessee spying on practices.

Practices closed after that fiasco.
 
gth816f said:
If this is really a concern, then I don't understand why practices are open. I'm pretty sure U[sic]GA has it in their athletic budget to have someone drive into Atlanta and watch the practices as a "fan" every day and get much more valuable information than anything an actual fan would post onto the internet. Same with pretty much every other school we play.
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It is against NCAA rules to attend practices/scrimmages of opposing teams unless you have been invited---or tickets are sold to the event.
 
techneek1 said:
It is against NCAA rules to attend practices/scrimmages of opposing teams unless you have been invited---or tickets are sold to the event.
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And that is probably why they don't like the idea of videos. If Georgia Tech fan posts a video of the practice the other team can get said viewings without the possibility of NCAA violations. Said violations are probably why people coming to the practice is less of a problem, keeps the other schools honest.
 
As an out of towner, I can remember I'd be in Atlanta and would love to have watched a spring practice during the O'Leary era, but they were closeed except to a few big contributors.

Enjoy the personal opportunity you have to watch a practice. Abide by the coaches' requests without complaint. I absolutely understand that they don't want too much info shared on the internet after every practice. Just go watch, stay out of the way, and have a great time.
 
I'm just having a hard time understanding why teams would feel compelled to watch our practices anyways. As I recall, our offense doesn't work in BCS conferences. I think every team has us penciled in as an easy win on next year's schedule. Let's face it, as long as we keep running the "dad gum wishbone," we don't stand a chance.
 
77GTFan said:
As an out of towner, I can remember I'd be in Atlanta and would love to have watched a spring practice during the O'Leary era, but they were closeed except to a few big contributors.

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actually O'leary's requirement was that you were a season tix holder whiched seemed very reasonable
 
jacketup said:
Absolutes are the province of small minds, such as the ones that have run the GTAA for years.

Blogs and photos are free media, which as lawbee points out, might increase the fan base. The GTAA apparently doesn't want fans. For years, they have made ticket purchases difficult, parking difficult, and they discourage publicity. The attitude seems to be "please don't come to our stadium, you'll just make a mess."

They could make rules that would allow bloggers to register and adhere to rules about what can and can't be posted. Instead, the GTAA,once again, bites the hands that feed them.

If someone really wants to take photos of practice for improper reasons, it is not very hard to do so, but they are not smart enough to figure that out. They would rather be the Gestapo to their own fans.
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jacketup you are a douche
 
I will be wearing a funny hat and talking in a strange shrill voice. Otherwise nothing to worry about.

Oh, and GO JACKETS!
 
During PJ and his crew's days at Georgia Southern, I went to dozens of practices. There were also the same boosters/fans in attendance. They even took attendance and if one of them missed, they caught crap from the others the next day.
But they also served as enforcers, too. Anybody they didn't recognize or who looked out of place got the third degree from them — the fans, not the coaches.

Practice was always open, to fans and media. Of course, when you practice at the busiest intersection in town and the only thing separating practice from a soccer game is a chain link fence, privacy just doesn't exist.
If the coaches don't want some video or some info out there (though you would figure the AJC would at least report who worked out where or who might be injured because frankly, the other teams will find out by game 2 of this season just by watching game video), I is cool with that.
 
Just be grateful that we get to watch practice and don't have to rely on the AUC for information.
 
Too many Tech folks think like liberal arts majors.

For example, some of you seem to believe that other coaches could, with some effort, see the same things information conveyed by these photographs, videos, and detailed information. You are absolutely correct. The difference is "some effort." When these things are posted on the web, the opposing coaches can gather this information "with minimal effort." Coaching staffs are limited to a certain number of positions (by the NCAA). For a coach to gather similar information they would have to travel to Atlanta, taking time away from recruiting, coaching, family, etc. Or, they could hire someone to do that for them, risking punishment and horrible press. Either way, by putting detailed information on the web you lower transaction costs.

As far as our mutual desire to learn about the interesting formations we have and who is playing what position, etc., drive yourself down to practice and watch. You aren't entitled to sit in your chair at home and find that out, because if you can do that, so can other coaches (see above). I'm more than happy to get the general "we are catching a lot of passes or dropping them, and the other general information that is fine to share. When I'm 80 and semi-retired, I look forward to going to practices. Until then, I'll just read practice reports when I have the time.

Many of you also claim that "they'll know what we are doing by the second game." Not so. No single game affords a team the opportunity to display all aspects of its potential game plan. Some aspects may lie dormant until the perfect moment. What might otherwise come as a surprise could be accounted for by the other coaches. If this prevents a big play, or allows a linebacker to react one second faster, or the offensive line to pick up on a disguised blitz, it could cost us the game.

As far as the GTAA doing things that make it inconvenient for us? Well, I don't see what that has to do with practice. For instance, parking is not a problem for tailgating. And in my experience, having attended college football games at nearly every major venue in the SE, you park much closer, at a lower cost, at GT than you do nearly anywhere else.

GT alumni (and students) often have a ridiculous sense of what they are entitled to. I wish we had more sidewalk fans, because they don't walk around with a corncob shoved where the sun doesn't shine. I love GT, but we have way too many Yetmans.
 
I'm not about to question the reasonableness of the coaching staff's request. However, it seems that the video and formation pictures are the big issues whereas the Hive post makes the problem out to be much broader. Is there a reason for the incongruence in these messages? The hive has always turned me off because that post like others comes off as elitist and demeaning. The internet and message boards in particular seem to be the perfect place for someone to talk down to others without having to confront them. Seems this could all be solved very easily by someone politely asking the supposed offender not to continue whatever it is that is unwanted.

I definately respect the staff's choices. I just hope the message isn't lost in translation where it goes from a simple reasonable request to a hive driven mandate. I have a feeling it could have a definite chilling effect...especially the whole "you're lucky you get anything at all" attitude.
 
demjackets said:
Its common sense people. Posting videos of practice without the discretion of the coaches or the AA is prohibited. Watch the practice and have fun. Be happy you are even allowed out there right now.
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KrazieJacket said:
I understand what is being asked but if everything needs to be so hush hush then why are the practices not closed. If I was another team wanting to know what was going on at GT's spring practice I would send someone to watch it in person and not trust just what is posted on a board. JMO
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In a nutshell, it's against NCAA rules to watch another teams practice. They could certainly be covert and do it anyway, but it's against the rules regardless.
 
the problem with "smart" people is that they think they know everything better

this is basic stuff. if you want a chance to peek then dont be an idiot and act within the constraints of logic

if you think posting a practice video will "increase the fan base" then go back to your crack rock

i am not sure about expectation of privacy, the field is surrounded by a LARGE WALL and the coaches asked not to post video, so one might conclude that in fact there IS an expectation of privacy since they TOLD YOU they have one and ask you to RESPECT IT

you guys that think that GT lives to serve you have it backwards
 
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