Cover Up

oldfoggy

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So whats the word from those who know about the law suit alleging that Braine, Clough etc covered up the mess at Tech, then fired one of the underlings. Seems I smell a rat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
 

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Here's a link to the ajc article: Ex-adviser alleges coverup

The 'rat' you smell is Shane Olivett. I'm beyond growing weary of this type of attention that continues to befall GT athletics. I would have never imagined having to deal with everything that has taken place over the last year. Really, I'm just fed up.

Whether or not there is any substance behind these allegations, well, let me back up, it IS important to know if there is any TRUTH in Olivett's allegations. However, the fact that GT could (and does) have it's name attached to a lawsuit of this nature just leaves me to wonder what the hell has been going on over at North Avenue.

There is a new man on board now, and Rad needs to get in there, roll up his sleeves and clean up whatever potential or perceived mess he may find.

Geez... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puke.gif
 

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This Olivett guy is interesting though. Seems he has been a academic advisor at Tulane, South Carolina, Tech and now Akron. He had some involvement with the NCAA while at USC when they got into trouble. Apparently he did speak with them during their investigation here as well, so one would think they didn't buy his story or our sanctions would have been worse. Hopefully it's a disgruntled employee, but it certainly doesn't help no matter what the final outcome is.
 

hiveredtech

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Shane Olivett is likely one of those people that are always fine with everything until something doesn't go their way...then they embellish on a story to gain attention, gain credibility after a job loss, and extort money. He did the same thing to South Carolina (after arriving at GT) by going to the NCAA about a bunch of crap.
 
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this could get interesting...or very ugly for GT. Jan Kemp reincarnated into Braine?
 

gtyellowjackets

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You know I resent this being compared to the Jan Kemp thing, even if it's just speculation. Jan Kemp involved humdreds of athletes that stayed in remedial basketweaving for years and never recieved any hours towards graduation. Jan Kemp was about giving 'A's to SA's who never attended class and keeping illiterate players eligible for 4 years. The UGAy athletic program was as corrupt as any in the country at the time.

This Olivett thing is about 17 players (out of 600?) who didn't take enough classes towards graduation. It was about lack of oversight by Carol Moore not doing her job. Most of them were Management majors. The School of Management is the 32nd ranked Management program in America. Over half of these 17 have since graduated or will. We have recieved our sanctions and the NCAA has heard everything that Olivett has had to say. We won't recieve any more sanctions regarless of what Olivett says...
 

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It would be interesting to see a counter-suit come out of this against Olivett for false accusations against GT.
 
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not saying we're gonna get press ala Kemp...but you never know what could come out of this. What is/was being covered up assuming the allegations pan out? You and I don't know..if this is hogwash from a disgruntled employee, then great (many said that was Kemp's motives, too, at the time and look what was uncovered). If it is not and there is merit to Olevetti's comments, some heads need to roll. For all you know it could be less than 17 students...it could be much more. Which is why this will be interesting to see pan out... I'm tired of the negative press against GT, and this suit is going to keep it going..on that you can count on.
 

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Just so everyone understands, there is nothing additional to come from the NCAA on this. Olivett is the one who prompted the full audit going back 10 years for which we were already punished by the NCAA..and we are appealing the penalty.

This went across all sports, not just football.
 
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good... just assuming his allegations prove to be true. Why would the NCAA not impose further sanctions if they find out top officials in the Athletic Dept were covering up evidence from them?
 

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I think you forget that the investigation has already occurred. All transcripts from EVERY SA during a five year period was reviewed. There were only 17. Olivett was interviewed by the NCAA. He didn't mention to them then that there was a cover up attempt. There's nothing more here that hasn't already been investigated. The only new allegation is that the violations were covered up by Clough and Braine. The NCAA didn't find that to be the case. And even if it's found true it would never be anywhere near what the Jan Kemp situation was.

You are WAY off base to try to compare this to the Jan Kemp thing, even in worse case scenario specualation. And everyone knew the remedial studies program at UGA was a joke before Jan blew the lid off it. I had a very good friend of mine that spent 3 years in the remedial studies program (during the Jan Kemp era), at UGAy, who was an All-American and functionally illiterate. He had about 2 classes towards graduation when he finished his eligiblity. I knew it then and so did anyone that even knew anything about athletics in the State of Georgia, at the time. You try to inflame the true situation at Tech (for some personal motivation) and minimize the Jan Kemp thing.

Bad press, I agree. Jan Kemp comparisson. Oh, Come On...
 

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I am not as worried about additional sanctions as I am about public perception. The bigger the stink is over this, the greater the chance is that Tech will be labeled as hypocritical cheaters by people that don't know the entire story.

I would guess that this scum Olivette(?) has been trying to blackmail Tech into giving him hush money. If that's true, Tech has told him to stick it.
I certainly hope that Tech files a defamation type countersuit against this Zip.
 

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I certainly hope that Tech files a defamation type countersuit against this Zip.

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I think i will come, Braine said Tuesday. "[The NCAA] looked at it. There was never any intent to cover up anything. It's unbelievable he would say that. He might end up being sued for libel."

And I hope he does.
 
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wow..assumptions galore. Bad press coming? probably so because of this. Now the guy is a scum and probably using blackmailing tactics? My point is saying this is like Jan Kemp is because she was known to not like athletics, was called a disgruntled employee, and used the courts to expose flaws in the Athletic dept. All of that can be said for Olevett (sp?) today. So, in that comparison the bad press that will come to GT, like UGA, is very real and their motives appear to be similar.

Is he right in his allegations? For GT's sake, let's hope not. Otherwise, our academic integrity for athletes is once again on the line as it was with the recent NCAA probation for using ineligible athletles.
 

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wow..assumptions galore. Bad press coming? probably so because of this. Now the guy is a scum and probably using blackmailing tactics? My point is saying this is like Jan Kemp is because she was known to not like athletics, was called a disgruntled employee, and used the courts to expose flaws in the Athletic dept. All of that can be said for Olevett (sp?) today. So, in that comparison the bad press that will come to GT, like UGA, is very real and their motives appear to be similar.

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You're right everybody now is an armchair psychologist making all sorts of assumptions when in reality we don't know anything for sure and this case is still in its infancy (the suit that is), whatever bad press comes from this "scandal" while being a black eye for GT I cannot image it ever being compared to Jan Kemp in terms of the offense nor will it yield the one liners the Jan Kemp case gave us, remember "he might not graduate but be smart enought to work as a garbage man" quote or something along those lines.
 
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I didn't follow the Kemp case close enough to know quotes (that is funny)... but know today that the press and the AJC would love nothing more than to make this trial against GT a big issue... even bigger than it should be if that is the case. That could hurt us.
 

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You can go to the bank that a trial will be covered in epic proportions. Remember Tech is THE BIG BAD UNIVERSITY WITH ALL THAT MONEY, while UGA is putting out journalists who thinks their job is to attack the THE BIG BAD COMPANIES THAT ARE HURTING THE LITTLE GUY. We are perceived as that by the AJC and the hick UGA fan in the sticks. This guy is smart enough to know that avoiding the public mess on its own is probably worth a few G's.
 

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Sadly enough you're right, Ugag's infractions get the benefit of the doubt but ours are given the "guilty untill proven innocent" treatment because of the Ugag biases in the state and the AJC is no exception. Not being the University of College football in your state creates a stronger reputation that no research grant or academic achievement can compensate for in the court of public opinion.
 

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Red, I hope you are correct that there is actually no fire under this.

I will add that one positive could come from this and that is to reunite our fan base. Guilty or innocent, a group of people tend to come together when attacked like this. It's a great opportunity for RAD I'd think.

I also add that it's possible that Clough HAD to take an outsider as AD. This whole thing is a bigger mess and just won't seem to go away. As insiders see that, they may be more willing to drop the whole method of AD search (although I am not seeing any real anger over that).
 
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