Joe Williams of Douglas County Sentinal says CPJ is the right man for GT

JoltinJacket said:
LOLWTF??? Dodd had a record of 49-23-2 from 1959-66. For some reason, the columnist didn't include Dodd's 9-2 final season in '66. I'll take that "horrible" record any day.
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Is it cause the players weren't "his players"?

#doingitrite
 
staggerwing said:
I don't understand why that author and others seem to think that GT is Johnson's end goal. If he's the football mastermind that they say he is (that's a big if, but for the sake of argument), why would he stay at GT? Why would he not want to test his presumed badassery at a school that cares about football or in the NFL?

Again, not saying I think Johnson would succeed in the NFL, but the people who say he's a genius also think GT is his Graceland, which doesn't make any sense at all.
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I remember hearing more than once early in PJ's tenure that he wanted to retire at GT. Hell, he turned down Auburn in 2008 - it's hard to find a better example of a school that cares more about football.

I thought this article made a lot of sense. It wasn't necessarily expertly written, but the points he made were very good. Think about it - excluding schools like Notre Dame that are traditional powerhouses since the beginning of time, how many elite academic schools like GT have had sustained success in the modern era? Zero? Hell, we've been to 15 straight bowl games. I guarantee you nobody in our "league" has come anywhere CLOSE to that recently. Why are we so ready to blow that up and start over?
 
johncu said:
Hell, we've been to 15 straight bowl games. I guarantee you nobody in our "league" has come anywhere CLOSE to that recently. Why are we so ready to blow that up and start over?
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Because in the seasons we made 15 bowl games, we also beat Georgia like three times.
 
Don't know Joe Williams. Do know he misspelled "Lou Sabin." (Seriously? WTF?)

Do know PJ. Do know he likes to win and he likes the kind of student-athletes you attract at a place like Tech - smart, high character, motivated.
 
johncu said:
I remember hearing more than once early in PJ's tenure that he wanted to retire at GT. Hell, he turned down Auburn in 2008 - it's hard to find a better example of a school that cares more about football.

I thought this article made a lot of sense. It wasn't necessarily expertly written, but the points he made were very good. Think about it - excluding schools like Notre Dame that are traditional powerhouses since the beginning of time, how many elite academic schools like GT have had sustained success in the modern era? Zero? Hell, we've been to 15 straight bowl games. I guarantee you nobody in our "league" has come anywhere CLOSE to that recently. Why are we so ready to blow that up and start over?
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I'm not ready to fire Johnson. I'd much rather tell the Hill to get over itself and either let us compete or drop football.

My point was that I've never heard of anyone thinking GT is anything other than a coaching stepping stone.
 
Gee I thought Dodd went 9-2 his final year. Also, I would prefer to not be in the "Brain League" for athletics.

Lou Sabin? Didn't he coach the Buffalo Bills in the 60's?
 
ramblinwise1 said:
Also, I would prefer to not be in the "Brain League" for athletics.
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Thank you.

"Brain league" translated from delusion-speak to English means "teams that choose to handicap themselves rather than compete."

If we and other brain league schools were half as smart as we think we are, we'd solve the problem of winning titles with actual students instead of saying in effect that it's one or the other.
 
I don't totally disagree with the article but I don't think Tech gets enough credit for being a brain school like Stanford, Duke, etc.

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Well, our academic reputation is good enough that a lot of people think that Tech is a private school.
 
Dodd went 10-2 in 1956 and the final AP rank was 4th. In 1961, Dodd finished 7-4 with a final AP rank of 13th. In 1966, Dodd’s last year, he was 9-2 with a final AP rank of 8th. In 1965, he was 7-3-1 with no final AP ranking even though he defeated number 10 Texas Tech in the Gator Bowl. Dodd averaged winning 7 games a year over his last 7 seasons without playing any division II schools. During this period he defeated #8 Tennessee (1960), # 7 Rice (1961), #1 Alabama (1962), #10 Texas Tech (1965), and #8 Tennessee in 1966. His record against traditional SEC teams was Alabama 1-3, LSU 1-3, Auburn 3-3, Tenn 4-3, FLA 3-3, and Georgia 3-4. His record against Clemson was 5-0. He defeated So Calif. 27 -9 in 1962. If CPJ can match Dodd’s record against a similar strength of schedule, I believe all the fans will be very happy. Let’s hope he does it.
 
People are crazy.. open up any thread about our team and recruiting handicaps come up, then post an article calling us a member of the "brain league" and people flip out saying that's crap..

My $0.02 is that the dude makes some good points. I know I am in the minority but, after watching JW struggle to use words like "adversity", use simple syntax in his sentence structure, or even try to make a coherent point about what was said during half time I shudder to think about lowering the academic standards for Ma Tech. We have a brand as a top tier academic school - not football powerhouse. I came into the school eyes wide open - and I believe most of the other alumni did as well.

Ultimately it comes down to a question of priorities for me. The STUDENT part of Student Athlete takes precedence (both in order and importance) and following the bouncing ball of logic that means I want a coach who wins AND has solid graduation ratings. I want a coach who recruits intelligent representatives of the institute.

I would rather have that and 7-5 then FSU's National Championship with JW and co stuttering through 5 letter words on national TV.
 
All CPJ has to do is become a better recruiter who is able to convince talented players who also have the academic skills to handle Tech that they will have an opportunity to showcase skills the NFL is looking for.

Convince them that if they have those skills they will get a shot at the NFL. But, if the NFL passes, the education GT provides them will prepare them for a very productive non football life.

It is that simple. All he has to do is be honest with himself and make the changes neccessary to be successful.
 
JoltinJacket said:
LOLWTF??? Dodd had a record of 49-23-2 from 1959-66. For some reason, the columnist didn't include Dodd's 9-2 final season in '66. I'll take that "horrible" record any day.
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If you cherry pick stretches of seasons, you can show whatever agenda you are trying to show.

For example, from 1951-1956, Dodd was 59-7-3 (0.875), went to a bowl game every year (was 6-0 in those bowls) and won a NC in '52. He won 3 Sugar Bowls, an Orange, Cotton, and Gator.

From 1957-1964, he was 48-31-4 (0.602), only went to 3 bowls in 8 seasons (was 0-3 in those bowls). He was 3-5 against ugag during these 8 years, but was 6-0 during the earlier (1951-1956) period.
 
1NYJacket said:
All CPJ has to do is become a better recruiter who is able to convince talented players who also have the academic skills to handle Tech that they will have an opportunity to showcase skills the NFL is looking for.

Convince them that if they have those skills they will get a shot at the NFL. But, if the NFL passes, the education GT provides them will prepare them for a very productive non football life.

It is that simple. All he has to do is be honest with himself and make the changes neccessary to be successful.
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When Vandy fires Franklin for his involvement in the coverup, we should hire him as recruiting coordinator. He's developed a good sales pitch for Vandy that could work here.
 
I once had a boss who used to tell potential hires " Young (man or woman), if you are lucky enough to be given an opportunity to work in this company, make sure you take advantage of the opportunity."

I would tell every recruit the same thing about Georgia Tech. "If you are lucky enough to be given an opportunity to play at Georgia Tech and receive a world class education that will prepare you for a very productive life, make sure you take advantage of the opportunity."
 
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