The New College Football Joke Playoffs

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Well here we are. A playoff is near. Being relatively close to the situation as a Tech fan, I find the whole thing incredibly interesting and disgusting at the same time. Although I certainly want Tech to win out, for these slightly different reasons, I'd really love to have Tech win out:

1) The early signals by the committee is that media persuasion is just as powerful inside the elite selection group as outside in the old BCS. I thought these elite thinkers would get things right but so far they are inclined to overly support a Miss St team (and other SEC) who's high ranking was based on big wins versus LSU, Auburn, and A&M. Oops, those teams stink! As does the rest of their schedule. I can't wait to see how this ends after conference championships, and see how folks get ranked because so far it's a SECSPN lovefest.

2) If Georgia gets to the SEC Final and Tech wins out, I can't wait to see how conference champions are weighed around the country and also how they are weighed versus Miss St who has beaten nobody.
How could a Georgia or Miami victory not matter (those teams would have 3 or 4 losses), when a 3 or 4 loss Auburn, LSU and A&M does? I can not wait to see how the committee responds to this and oh my, imagine when UGA beats Bama too. Transparency will help sell college football. Lack of it and all bets are off.

3) Imagine if Georgia goes to the SECCG after losing to Tech. Remember when the SEC refs were openly attacked for letting Tech win a game (Jasper Sanks)? Since then, the SEC has been really good about finding that one special team...and getting them through. I can not wait to see how the referees score a UGA v Alabama game. Gosh please let it happen.

4) And as others have stated, never before has rankings mattered so much to bowl selections. Amazing that Clemson's AD helps decide where they and other teams are ranked and amazing how the Orange Bowl's selection is based on that. If Tech doesn't win out, this will be fun to watch too. Wow, the team that is ranked early in the season will always win out with this committee? I find it incredibly hard to believe but I think it's coming based on how they've voted so far?

5) I was incensed by that Bama-LSU championship. That one should have a big asterisk next to it forever. No matter how hard one tries, there is no real good way to compare conferences annually. Certainly interleague play can help but how do you really compare a two loss team from a "strong" conference versus a one loss team from the "third best". This is a joke! FSU has not lost in 27 games. That matters folks. But not to the committee.

The committee should not even think about the past history of conferences (FSU is undefeated this year). Period! That thinking would suggest that GT is always better than VPI because we've won 4 NC's. But so far, this committee is looking like it does matter. "The SEC were good and they should get special attention."

When setting up this playoff the conference leaders talked about winning a conference as being most important. Really? Then shouldn't the top four have always been FSU/OhioState/Oregon/top SEC/Baylor-TCU instead of MissSt/Alabama/FSU/Auburn/A&M....?

I am so sick of the SEC lovefest and it's getting worse. This is why is sickens me that we play UGA annually since our record against UGA is partly responsible for the SEC lovefest.

There is a reasonably good chance that the SEC Champion has 2 losses and the rest of the Big Four don't. And we all know what is going to happen...and I can't wait to enjoy watching the death of the Final Four right out the gate.

There are all kinds of things to observe in the coming weeks!
 
midatlantech said:
3) Imagine if Georgia goes to the SECCG after losing to Tech. Remember when the SEC refs were openly attacked for letting Tech win a game (Jasper Sanks)?

Since then, the SEC has been really good about finding that one special team...and getting them through. I can not wait to see how the referees score a UGA v Alabama game. Gosh please let it happen.
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A 3-Loss UGAG team will not be "allowed by the SEC HQ"
to beat a 1-Loss Bama team...with the CFP playoffs on the line.
 
midatlantech said:
Well here we are. A playoff is near. Being relatively close to the situation as a Tech fan, I find the whole thing incredibly interesting and disgusting at the same time. Although I certainly want Tech to win out, for these slightly different reasons, I'd really love to have Tech win out:

1) The early signals by the committee is that media persuasion is just as powerful inside the elite selection group as outside in the old BCS. I thought these elite thinkers would get things right but so far they are inclined to overly support a Miss St team (and other SEC) who's high ranking was based on big wins versus LSU, Auburn, and A&M. Oops, those teams stink! As does the rest of their schedule. I can't wait to see how this ends after conference championships, and see how folks get ranked because so far it's a SECSPN lovefest.

2) If Georgia gets to the SEC Final and Tech wins out, I can't wait to see how conference champions are weighed around the country and also how they are weighed versus Miss St who has beaten nobody.
How could a Georgia or Miami victory not matter (those teams would have 3 or 4 losses), when a 3 or 4 loss Auburn, LSU and A&M does? I can not wait to see how the committee responds to this and oh my, imagine when UGA beats Bama too. Transparency will help sell college football. Lack of it and all bets are off.

3) Imagine if Georgia goes to the SECCG after losing to Tech. Remember when the SEC refs were openly attacked for letting Tech win a game (Jasper Sanks)? Since then, the SEC has been really good about finding that one special team...and getting them through. I can not wait to see how the referees score a UGA v Alabama game. Gosh please let it happen.

4) And as others have stated, never before has rankings mattered so much to bowl selections. Amazing that Clemson's AD helps decide where they and other teams are ranked and amazing how the Orange Bowl's selection is based on that. If Tech doesn't win out, this will be fun to watch too. Wow, the team that is ranked early in the season will always win out with this committee? I find it incredibly hard to believe but I think it's coming based on how they've voted so far?

5) I was incensed by that Bama-LSU championship. That one should have a big asterisk next to it forever. No matter how hard one tries, there is no real good way to compare conferences annually. Certainly interleague play can help but how do you really compare a two loss team from a "strong" conference versus a one loss team from the "third best". This is a joke! FSU has not lost in 27 games. That matters folks. But not to the committee.

The committee should not even think about the past history of conferences (FSU is undefeated this year). Period! That thinking would suggest that GT is always better than VPI because we've won 4 NC's. But so far, this committee is looking like it does matter. "The SEC were good and they should get special attention."

When setting up this playoff the conference leaders talked about winning a conference as being most important. Really? Then shouldn't the top four have always been FSU/OhioState/Oregon/top SEC/Baylor-TCU instead of MissSt/Alabama/FSU/Auburn/A&M....?

I am so sick of the SEC lovefest and it's getting worse. This is why is sickens me that we play UGA annually since our record against UGA is partly responsible for the SEC lovefest.

There is a reasonably good chance that the SEC Champion has 2 losses and the rest of the Big Four don't. And we all know what is going to happen...and I can't wait to enjoy watching the death of the Final Four right out the gate.

There are all kinds of things to observe in the coming weeks!
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tl;dr. Drop to FCS.
 
I think a good solution short of an expanded playoff would be to put some objective constraints on the rankings.

A simple rule that would vastly improve the selection rankings:

- Teams from the "Power 5" conferences with better records must always be ranked ahead of teams with worse records. The committee may rank teams only within the same record.

- Teams from other conferences must be ranked no worse than a "Power 5" teams with one more loss. So an 11-0 Marshall must always be ranked ahead of say a 9-2 Georgia, but a 10-1 Georgia could be ranked above an 11-0 Marshall.

This would require officially tiering conferences within FBS, but I think it is a change that would produce much more fairness.
 
gtzulu said:
I think a good solution short of an expanded playoff would be to put some objective constraints on the rankings.

A simple rule that would vastly improve the selection rankings:

- Teams from the "Power 5" conferences with better records must always be ranked ahead of teams with worse records. The committee may rank teams only with the same record.

- Teams from other conferences must be ranked no worse than a "Power 5" teams with one more loss. So an 11-0 Marshall must always be ranked ahead of say a 9-2 Georgia, but a 10-1 Georgia could be ranked above a 11-0 Marshall.

This would require officially tiering conferences within FBS, but I think it is a change that would produce much more fairness.
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Your first suggestion won't work because teams would then drop playing anybody tough out of conference. However, if you say "All Power 5 conference victories/losses will be treated equally" or so, then it would be fairer. (MSU is a joke as they haven't won any more quality games than any other one loss team in the whole country.)

I think college football is about to die for many reasons. The biggest for me personally is that I can't stomach SECSPN. Over the last ten years, the SEC has been the best conference but not to such a huge point as they should be given special advantages when comparing one team to another in any given year.

Any team that wins a P5 conference with championship is a good team. Splitting hairs that one loss MSU, because they beat crappy Auburn,A&M, LSU, is better than undefeated or one loss FSU, who beat crappy Miami, Louisville, Clemson, is the joke. And that joke is played out in every friggin sentence out there via SECSPN.
 
midatlantech said:
Your first suggestion won't work because teams would then drop playing anybody tough out of conference.
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They would still need to play a good OOC schedule to be ranked higher than teams with the same record. A 10-1 FSU who played Bethune Cookman would be ranked lower than a 10-1 VT who played Ohio State.
 
A good solution is just say 'no more than 2 teams from the same conference will go to the bracket.'

That's all that's really needed.
 
The SEC went 1-4 in BCS bowls against other conferences since bowl season of the 2010 regular season. The lone win was Auburn over Oregon. This count excludes Alabama's win over Notre Dame and Alabama's win over LSU.

The losses were Ohio State > Arkansas, Oklahoma > Alabama, Florida State > Auburn, and Lousiville > Florida
 
Might help if we just beat them on the field.

One can only imagine what we would be saying if we had wins over LSU, auburn, a&am.
 
texstinger said:
Might help if we just beat them on the field.

One can only imagine what we would be saying if we had wins over LSU, auburn, a&am.
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Sorry to say it, but you've bought into the bs too. LSU, Auburn and A&M are no better than Clemson, Miami and VPI. I'm not yelling at you, just showing how the constant barrage by reporters affects us all.
 
...And.... Ohio State is right up there with a loss to an ACC team with a losing record in the conferene yet the conference sucks so bad that if FSU loses they are out. And BC who FSU plays this week beat USC whom is still alive in the mighty Pac 12 South.
 
texstinger said:
Might help if we just beat them on the field.

One can only imagine what we would be saying if we had wins over LSU, auburn, a&am.
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I know exactly what we'd be saying. We'd be pissed because we'd be ranked 7th since we're not in the SEC.

Plus, if we beat UGA and FSU, our wins will undoubtedly have been more impressive than Miss State's, should they end up with 2 losses. Yet I almost guarantee you they would stay ahead of us, even if we won the conference and they did not.

FSU > LSU
UGA > Auburn
Miami > A&M
Clemson > Arkansas or whoever the hell else they beat
 
By the way, look at who's on the committee:

PAC 10:
Willingham (Stanford/WA/Anti ND)
Rice (Stanford)
Jernstedt (OR, Big 12)
Haden (USC)

ACC:
DRAD (CU/LSU/Anti GT)

SEC:
Weiberg (Missouri)
Manning, out?
Long (Ark)

Big Ten:
Alvarez (Wisc)
Osborne (Neb)

Big 12:
Luck (WV Anti ACC)

Other:
Tranghese (Anti-ACC)
Gould (Anti-PJ)

No wonder the ACC keeps getting hammered. Good grief. Why can't they find two folks from each conference every year?
 
midatlantech said:
By the way, look at who's on the committee:

PAC 10:
Willingham (Stanford/WA/Anti ND)
Rice (Stanford)
Jernstedt (OR, Big 12)
Haden (USC)

ACC:
DRAD (CU/LSU/Anti GT)

SEC:
Weiberg (Missouri)
Manning, out?
Long (Ark)

Big Ten:
Alvarez (Wisc)
Osborne (Neb)

Big 12:
Luck (WV)

Other:
Tranghese (Anti-ACC)
Gould (Anti-PJ)

No wonder the ACC keeps getting hammered. Good grief. Why can't they find two folks from each conference every year?
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Just repeat after me.........


IT'S A F-ING CARTEL !!
 
While I would have preferred the BCS to remain in place, with four teams being selected instead of two, I could live with the CFP if it included eight teams instead of four.

Stipulations would simply be: Big Five conference champions will automatically take five slots. Three additional slots will be at-large, with the added stipulation that no conference may have more than two representatives. Whether or not you add that a Big Five at-large must be a division winner (where two divisions are in place) is open to debate.


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8 teams may be too much for now. I still think it should move towards 6 teams. Top 2 get first round byes.

5 spots for Power 5 conference champs, remaining for Group of Five/ND. Problem solved.
 
It is the circular arguments that are BS:

Team A is #1 because it beat Team B @ #5, Team C @ #12 and Team D @ #20.

But Team B is #5 because it only lost to Team A, Team C is #12 because it only lost to A & B and Team D is #20 because it only lost to A, B & C.
 
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