Grading the Coaching hires

slugboy

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I'd give CSU a B or B-. They didn't get their first choice, but they handled it a lot better than Florida. We'll have to see what the coaching staff rounds out into.

I'd give Florida a B or B-, since they got a good coach, but none of the coaches they were trying for initially (they got their fallback coach, too). Their hiring process was a D-.
 

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I'd give CSU a B or B-. They didn't get their first choice, but they handled it a lot better than Florida. We'll have to see what the coaching staff rounds out into.

I'd give Florida a B or B-, since they got a good coach, but none of the coaches they were trying for initially (they got their fallback coach, too). Their hiring process was a D-.
In my opinion, Not getting their first choice is a stupid criteria and irrelevant to the grade.

If I hook up with the second hottest chick at hooters, that's a B or B- if I asked the hottest chick to go home first? Is it somehow an A if I don't ask the hottest chick first?

How do you know who Florida or CSUs first choices were anyway?
 

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In my opinion, Not getting their first choice is a stupid criteria and irrelevant to the grade.

If I hook up with the second hottest chick at hooters, that's a B or B- if I asked the hottest chick to go home first? Is it somehow an A if I don't ask the hottest chick first?

How do you know who Florida or CSUs first choices were anyway?
Because their preferences were nearly public. Florida was getting publicly rejected repeatedly, then went to a school that couldn't compete with them financially and wouldn't even try.

And the reason the preferences are important are because they tried for coaches that they thought were better, failed to get them, then moved on to their backup plans.

Neither program achieved what they tried to in their coaching hires. If you gave the ADs at Florida or CSU a list of coaches in advance of the hire, and got them to assign them a letter grade as prospective hires three weeks ago, I doubt they would rank them as "A" hires themselves.
 

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In my opinion, Not getting their first choice is a stupid criteria and irrelevant to the grade.

If I hook up with the second hottest chick at hooters, that's a B or B- if I asked the hottest chick to go home first? Is it somehow an A if I don't ask the hottest chick first?

How do you know who Florida or CSUs first choices were anyway?
A lot of it really depends on the Hooters location you go to.
 

GTCrew

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Because their preferences were nearly public. Florida was getting publicly rejected repeatedly, then went to a school that couldn't compete with them financially and wouldn't even try.

And the reason the preferences are important are because they tried for coaches that they thought were better, failed to get them, then moved on to their backup plans.

Neither program achieved what they tried to in their coaching hires. If you gave the ADs at Florida or CSU a list of coaches in advance of the hire, and got them to assign them a letter grade as prospective hires three weeks ago, I doubt they would rank them as "A" hires themselves.
Who did Florida publicly whiff on? Who did CSU publicly whiff on?
 

olgoldandwhite

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At first glance there are some head scratchers, but who knows? I remember when Urban was questioned and Muschamp was a sure thing!
 

slugboy

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Who did Florida publicly whiff on? Who did CSU publicly whiff on?
CSU: Scott Frost (OC, Oregon--wanted because he's a good Pacific coast recruiter)

UF: Tried Todd Graham from Arizona State, Hugh Freeze from Ole Miss. Both turned it down and it was fairly well reported. They may have even asked Cutcliffe (that's a little less public). Then Foley (their AD) posted on social media his flight to CSU to go after McElwain, thinking it would be a piece of cake.

Pretty funny review of the Florida hiring process from the EDSBS guys here.

By the way, timing of the hire was pretty close to the dead period, so there's a lot of recruiting to make up.
 

Jerry the Jacket

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Hiring a new coach is a lot like recruiting. You really won't know what you have until a couple of years down the road. As a former Dawg, I have to hope BoBo crashes and burns. Hopefully, like Muschamp, he is a career coordinator and not head coach material.

Go Jackets!
 

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Hiring a new coach is a lot like recruiting. You really won't know what you have until a couple of years down the road. As a former Dawg, I have to hope BoBo crashes and burns. Hopefully, like Muschamp, he is a career coordinator and not head coach material.

Go Jackets!

I hope Bobo does well at CSU. So well that it eats at the UGAg fanbase. I hope the Gagger offense falls on its ass and everyone discovers that Bobo was responsible for some good offensive development. I hope they have to endure terrible games of watching their team score single digits or low teens as they get throttled by their opponents, especially us.
 

BarrelORum

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CSU: Scott Frost (OC, Oregon--wanted because he's a good Pacific coast recruiter)

UF: Tried Todd Graham from Arizona State, Hugh Freeze from Ole Miss. Both turned it down and it was fairly well reported. They may have even asked Cutcliffe (that's a little less public). Then Foley (their AD) posted on social media his flight to CSU to go after McElwain, thinking it would be a piece of cake.

Pretty funny review of the Florida hiring process from the EDSBS guys here.

By the way, timing of the hire was pretty close to the dead period, so there's a lot of recruiting to make up.
Can you substantiate any of that? 247 sports should not be considered a viable source.
 
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