Anti-Gold Standard - Maintain the fight song in its original form

MtownJacket said:
What the hell you cis piece of öööö? What gives you the right to force the idea of "gender appropriate clothing" onto your child? You are raping zir with your ideals.
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BAN ZIM.ZIR is not restricted to your clothing norms.

clothesist.

if zir chooses to have no genitals, zir can be an ACC referee.
 
<actual fact follows> university of Tennessee suggested using gender neutral ze and zir instead of his and hers. Google it. wtf!!
 
When the fight song was written, Georgia Tech was a predominately male and young women could tryout for cheerleader. The girls were not students, only Cheerleaders for the team. This is why the song was worded that way.
 
GTMom said:
When the fight song was written, Georgia Tech was a predominately male and young women could tryout for cheerleader. The girls were not students, only Cheerleaders for the team. This is why the song was worded that way.
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Do you have a source for that? The song was written in 1908 but the first ever woman cheerleader attended the University of Minnesota in 1923. I don't think women could have tried out for cheerleader at the time the song was written.

I feel it's more likely that the song was worded the way it was because it would be considered improper for the daughter to use the world "Hell", so they are just listed as "cheering".

Women finally joined cheerleading in 1923 and began to dominate the sport during World War II when most of the men left to fight.
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http://cheerleading.isport.com/cheerleading-guides/history-of-cheerleading
 
andrew said:
Do you have a source for that? The song was written in 1908 but the first ever woman cheerleader attended the University of Minnesota in 1923. I don't think women could have tried out for cheerleader at the time the song was written.

I feel it's more likely that the song was worded the way it was because it would be considered improper for the daughter to use the world "Hell", so they are just listed as "cheering".



http://cheerleading.isport.com/cheerleading-guides/history-of-cheerleading
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Little Andrew is growing a pair.
 
I want the entire fight song replaced with this:

[y]qdsTUfDTEhQ[/y]
 
The Jacket said:
I know CIS. What the öööö is zir
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I'm embarrassed to know the answer to this, but:

"zir" is a madeup gender-neutral pronoun. unique snowflakes do this all the time. instead of him/his/her/hers they use öööö like xim/xer to...uh...I'm not really sure why they do it honestly
 
funny how "those" people aren't up in arms over the "put her on the campus" lyric. HOW DARE YOU REMOVE HER AGENCY!!
 
Ish said:
funny how "those" people aren't up in arms over the "put her on the campus" lyric. HOW DARE YOU REMOVE HER AGENCY!!
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The problem is this removes any agency from the young woman. She's dressed by her father, sent somewhere by her father and then expected to cheer for men. If you take "cheer" literally, then sure, cheerleaders are hard workers and all that, but being an amateur cheerleader isn't really a life calling.
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...a-tech-fight-song-ramblin-wreck-lyrics-change
 
The Jacket said:
Andrew has always been the most purely logical poster on this board. Sometimes it's infuriating but mostly it's refreshing.
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Are you after the little pair I'm growing or something?
 
andrew said:
Are you after the little pair I'm growing or something?
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You live in NYC where norms are different. You are used to the kooks making a little change here and there, but the incremental change, like changing a word in the fight song, doesn't change much in your life. What you miss in the big picture is the progression. Why are they just asking for one word, cheer, to be changed? Do you really think that's the end game? Can you buy a 64 ounce Coke? I don't want one either, but I don't want someone else deciding that for me. In the macro world, that's what we're fighting. I agree that changing one word over some made up grievance doesn't change much, but it will continue. As Barney (not the dinosaur) used to say, nip it in the bud.
 
GT1992 said:
You live in NYC where norms are different. You are used to the kooks making a little change here and there, but the incremental change, like changing a word in the fight song, doesn't change much in your life. What you miss in the big picture is the progression. Why are they just asking for one word, cheer, to be changed? Do you really think that's the end game? Can you buy a 64 ounce Coke? I don't want one either, but I don't want someone else deciding that for me. In the macro world, that's what we're fighting. I agree that changing one word over some made up grievance doesn't change much, but it will continue. As Barney (not the dinosaur) used to say, nip it in the bud.
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I may have misrepresented my position. I am 100% against the change. If it was a change that made sense, I wouldn't mind it. But it's not. It's a change that they're trying to propagate behind lack of context (leaving out the next two lines of the song) and outright falsehood ("the brave and bold" referring to the student body.) I've been pissed off about it for the past two days. They're basically dragging GT's name and fight song through the mud for no reason.

My post about it being an innocuous change was simply my assessment of the situation. I don't think this is where big money donors are going to make their stand, and I don't think anyone important in the faculty is going to stick their neck out over changing "cheer" to "join", even if the reasoning behind it is misguided and it is the start of a slippery slope. Whoever is leading this campaign has put it in a very strong position to get it done and avoided any mistakes that would cause widespread opposition among the faculty or even most of the student body.

Maybe my attitude is defeatist, but that's how I see it.
 
I don't like the change. If my granddaughter went to Georgia Tech I would indeed buy her all the white and gold clothes I could so that she could cheer for the brave and bold - GT football, volleyball, baseball, women's basketball, etc. And, if my grandson went to Georgia Tech I would like nothing more than for him to yell "To hell with Georgia" like his granddaddy used to do. (I'm too old for more children). Whoever is behind this change is wasting a lot of time and effort that could be better spent on more substantive gender issues that are both real and important. If the fight song is objectionable because of these lyrics we might as well scrap the whole thing. After all, it uses bad language, does not fit the ACC's commitment to sportsmanship by wishing ill will on the University of Georgia, seems to encourage binge drinking - that's a lot of rum and sugar - and the use of an old car as a symbol for our school clearly chooses an image more often associated with males.

Maybe by the Pitt game we can be rid of playing this awful song and can have sold the Ramblin' Wreck. I am sure that would make the college experience for the women at Tech much more enjoyable.
 
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