Fuente to VT

[HappyBuzz]

Just saying "high powered" doesn't mean they will be effective. Our garbage offense could score 50 against tulsa, kansas, and smu. VT was high powered when they had the vicks. Nepotism rearly works out. Too many chiefs and not enough indians isn't some made up bs.

There's no nepotism at play. The little Beamer is at the same spot he was under his dad.

A full spread like Fuente runs is going to get you points a whole lot more than it won't, no different than ours. The only thing that has held VT back in many recent years is a poor offense. The years they managed to figure that out in the ACC they usually won it.

Foster's defense is not what it once was. Saw The Key Play on Twitter saying how huge it was that they kept the best DC in the game, but he is far from that today.

Foster's still really good. There's probably 115 or so schools that would take him as a DC right now and we're included.

Like it or lump it that was a good hire for VT. Their program has lacked direction for several years under a very old, very tired head coach. They responded by keeping their best staff member and upping the game with a youthful, energetic coach known for turning around a really, really bad program in Memphis.

Whether Fuente works out or not, and hopefully he doesn't, this shouldn't sit well with anyone.

 

[wesleyd21]

You are not a very HappyBuzz

 

[swampsting]

Foster's still really good. There's probably 115 or so schools that would take him as a DC right now and we're included.

The Amazing Kreskin couldn't turn that D line into anything fierce, much less Bud Foster.

 

[non-gineer]

The Amazing Kreskin couldn't turn that D line into anything fierce, much less Bud Foster.

You're probably right, but maybe he could recruit another D line....

 

[travgt01]

There's no nepotism at play. The little Beamer is at the same spot he was under his dad.

A full spread like Fuente runs is going to get you points a whole lot more than it won't, no different than ours. The only thing that has held VT back in many recent years is a poor offense. The years they managed to figure that out in the ACC they usually won it.



Foster's still really good. There's probably 115 or so schools that would take him as a DC right now and we're included.

Like it or lump it that was a good hire for VT. Their program has lacked direction for several years under a very old, very tired head coach. They responded by keeping their best staff member and upping the game with a youthful, energetic coach known for turning around a really, really bad program in Memphis.

Whether Fuente works out or not, and hopefully he doesn't, this shouldn't sit well with anyone.

No nepotism? The rest of the current staff will most likely get canned but lil beamer stays on. Sounds exactly like nepotism to me. I doubt that Fuente was demanding that he keep his job. I'm sure it was part of Franks list of demands for him to walk away this year without a fuss.

 

[HappyBuzz]

No nepotism? The rest of the current staff will most likely get canned but lil beamer stays on. Sounds exactly like nepotism to me. I doubt that Fuente was demanding that he keep his job. I'm sure it was part of Franks list of demands for him to walk away this year without a fuss.

From what I'm hearing(in-laws are Hokies), Beamer will move from RB to ST coach, which is what he did at South Carolina under Spurrier. He'll keep his RC job for now, too. The thought is that this is transitional almost and in a few years he may be elsewhere.

Offensively VT will re-staff and defensively they'll will stay the same minus the LB coach, who was the newest of the D coaches and the least effective apparently.

Basically Fuente is bringing most of his O staff with him and Foster is keeping most of his D staff and they might hire 2 new guys.

 

[Flywheel]

Foster should have taken off while he had the chance to score big many years ago. If he can't land the VPI head job after waiting for so many years, it doesn't help his case trying to find a head position elsewhere.

 

[The Jacket]

Foster should have taken off while he had the chance to score big many years ago. If he can't land the VPI head job after waiting for so many years, it doesn't help his case trying to find a head position elsewhere.

There's no P5 AD in his right mind who would hire Foster as a head coach at this point. There is no case whatsoever that can be made for that sort of a hire and it's one that could end up costing the AD his job once the disaster finally went nuclear. But with him staying at VPI I think it's safe to say that Foster is smart enough to know what he is, that he's hit his ceiling and he's content with that.

Tenuta, on the other hand, I believe he wanted the job here very much and that, too, would have been catastrophic. I would have taken Muschamp and BMFY every day of the week over Tenuta and ROCKROCKROCK.

 

[beej67]

This is a nightmare scenario for us, really. Foster needs to GTFO of the Coastal.

 

[Flywheel]

I would have taken Muschamp and BMFY every day of the week over Tenuta and ROCKROCKROCK.

He didn't adjust well at all, but ROCK did pretty well to keep us in games where we only scored 13 points. Had he stuck around with CPJ, I think we'd have seen a Dodd-like era for GT football. He certainly wasn't HC material, but he was also better than 90% of defensive coordinators.

 

[The Jacket]

He didn't adjust well at all, but ROCK did pretty well to keep us in games where we only scored 13 points. Had he stuck around with CPJ, I think we'd have seen a Dodd-like era for GT football. He certainly wasn't HC material, but he was also better than 90% of defensive coordinators.

Tenuta's defense outright won games for us and it was a lot of fun to watch, no question. As for him sticking around with Johnson, if it were just a matter of X's and O's then I'd agree with you. But team unity was always an issue under Gailey/Tenuta and I think that could have been worse with Johnson/Tenuta.

I don't think there's any question Tenuta wanted to be a head coach and I believe he viewed his defense as his team, basically a separate entity from the rest of the team. That sort of approach with a guy like Johnson at the helm would likely spell disaster.

 

[andrew]

He didn't adjust well at all, but ROCK did pretty well to keep us in games where we only scored 13 points. Had he stuck around with CPJ, I think we'd have seen a Dodd-like era for GT football. He certainly wasn't HC material, but he was also better than 90% of defensive coordinators.

Agreed. He had our defense playing at a level we haven't seen since.

Yes it got him exposed and embarrassed a few times, but rare is the defense to which that doesn't happen at last once a season.

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[a5ehren]

Foster should have taken off while he had the chance to score big many years ago. If he can't land the VPI head job after waiting for so many years, it doesn't help his case trying to find a head position elsewhere.

Rumor is that he spends most of his time in the bottom of a bottle, if you catch my drift.

 

[Ish]

I've always been a big Tenuta proponent on this board, especially since he left and everyone started mocking his defense with the "ROCK ROCK ROCK" bullshit like it wasn't a terrific defense. But I'm not so sure he would fit in today's CFB climate (re: spread offenses). When Tenuta was here (2002-2007) most teams were still running a pro-style offense, which his defense typically ate alive. I seem to recall having trouble with the spread style offense which didn't gain popularity until maybe 2006-ish? This is all from my memory so I may be completely wrong though.

 

[Ish]

Wishful thinking at best. Foster, like him or not, is a monster DC and is keeping his staff to boot. Little Beamer was also never a serious candidate for the HC spot from all I read. He's their recruiting coordinator, that's probably why he is being retained, at least for now.

Fuente also runs a high-powered spread, a far cry from VT's usual plodding disaster of an offense. VT also has a lot of skill position talent to work with that will return.

It could not work out for them but it's a whole lot of spin to pretend keeping Foster and hiring one of the best names out there isn't a good step for VT.

we'll see how high powered his offense is w/ Brewer at the helm.