We get what we ask for

[LeonardWood]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

 

[ElCidBUZZingFAN]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

Soot and ashes, bro. Soot. And. Ashes.

 

[DressCheeseSideSeaboard]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

Be careful with your analysis. Some people take that öööö seriously.

Let me save you some time on researching me in particular since you are apparently too busy posting and aren't interested anyway.

What doesn't matter regarding my posting:
- This is my 31st post on this site
- Most have been non-game specific posts on broader topics
- My post count (or anyone else's post count) on this board

What does matter regarding my posting:
- I have been associated with GT for 38 years as a student, alumnus and parent
- I have a bachelors and masters from GT - they taught me well and set me up for success in the business world
- My two oldest children are GT grads and my third is a student - I believe in GT
- I have gladly given and paid significant sums of money to GT over the last thirty years - I invest in what I believe in
- I have been a football season ticket holder for 20+ years
- GT taught me to call out "hot garbage" when I see it, and I saw it in large quantities last night on offense

 

[ThisIsAtlanta]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

I can't find the pillar of salt on your graph, but I'm sure it's there.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Someone get RW92 to the ER! Stat!!!

 

[ptcJacket]

You don't sound like--you ARE--someone who embraces losing. They got a name for the winners in the world, and it's not EffinDane.

I think someone once said "they've got a name for the winners of the world...they call Alabama the Crimson Tide, call me Deacon Blues."

 

[RamblinWreck92]

No, I considered that fact. I was frustrated, but still had fun, and I think we will win 8 or 9 games this year. I also considered all the other facts I posted and considered the long term trend, instead of pissing my pants like you have after one painful game.

I've offered analysis and solutions. You've just complained like a lady. What's your non-complaining analysis? What's your solution?

::heavy sigh:: the old, lame "If you don't have a solution, you can't complain!!" load of horseshit again.

I don't have to have a solution to ObamaCare to know that it's crap.
I don't have to have a solution to ISIS to know they're garbage.
I don't need to have a solution to the CLE Browns to know that they're terrible.
I don't have to have a solution to our OL's blocking woes to point out that, whatever the hell they're being taught ain't working.

I'm not paid to fix our athletic issues. The day I get on the GT payroll will be the day I offer up solutions. Until then, I'm just pissing in the wind on a message board.
Just.
Like.
You.

TL;DR: No one important is taking your advice nor mine. My pants are as dry as yours. CLEM -9.5 was the easiest money of the weekend. Doesn't mean I have to be happy about it. Not sure how any real fan could have "had fun" last Thursday.

 

[RamblinWreck92]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

That's awesome! Looks like I wasn't happy about losing to inferior Duke and UNC teams in 2014 and was downright furious how we played against OPEN in 2015 Expected uptick after our embarrassing home loss to the worst mutt team in decades.

Lots of posts after our 2016 defeat of the greatest defense in America (BC, according to some here) and not much to say after snooze-fests vs Mercer and Vandy.

Nice work, Keyser.

 

[BuzzCzar]

::heavy sigh:: the old, lame "If you don't have a solution, you can't complain!!" load of horseshit again.

I don't have to have a solution to ObamaCare to know that it's crap.
I don't have to have a solution to ISIS to know they're garbage.
I don't need to have a solution to the CLE Browns to know that they're terrible.
I don't have to have a solution to our OL's blocking woes to point out that, whatever the hell they're being taught ain't working.

I'm not paid to fix our athletic issues. The day I get on the GT payroll will be the day I offer up solutions. Until then, I'm just pissing in the wind on a message board.
Just.
Like.
You.

TL;DR: No one important is taking your advice nor mine. My pants are as dry as yours. CLEM -9.5 was the easiest money of the weekend. Doesn't mean I have to be happy about it. Not sure how any real fan could have "had fun" last Thursday.

Youre a moron dude
And y no posts when we win? Just a whiner it seems, not a winner

 

[coit]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

Legendary.

 

[cajunjacket]

One can be a fan and thankful to Johnson for what he has done and still admit that there is a problem that isn't getting fixed nearly 10 years in. The more we try new "stuff", the farther we get away from what has worked for us in the past, and the worse our offensive output seems to be. Honestly, the defense is the one looking pretty stellar this year as the undersized, lower recruited group that is better as a body of work than a group of individuals. Their adjustments in the 2nd quarter and 2nd half against Clemson were great.

As far as offense goes...

We wanted passing, and we got the pistol formation. It turns out that we aren't really good at it either through coaching or talent. That was a bust.

We wanted bigger offensive lineman and we got bigger offensive lineman. It turns out size wasn't really the problem for the run game, although another line coach and bigger bodies seem to have made some difference in pass protection. Verdict is leaning in the bust department here as well.

Our best blocking in the run game to date seemed to be Cord Howard and some converted tight ends, along with some oversized a-backs that were willing to take a more physical approach to cut blocking.


The talent gap hasn't suddenly widened - our biggest rivals are continuing to recruit around the same level they always have. But, CPJ has been responsible for a number of defensive coordinator changes in the league. After UNC went through 3 DCs, they brought Chizik in to create a run-stop defense, Foster flew out to Iowa City after having back surgery just to spend a few weeks with Norm Parker, Clemson fired Kevin Steele and cut a nice fat check to Venables, Richt brought in Manny Diaz in Miami, but more importantly he brought in Craig Kuligowski who, in my opinion, is the best defensive line coach in the country.

The ACC has stepped up its coaching game. With new HCs, OCs, and DCs at just about every team, our level of competition has greatly increased. Teams are getting more out of their talent. When I look at what we are doing on the field, though, I just scratch my head. This season, like most of our other seasons, we seem to be getting farther away from what we do best.

Well put! Something isn't working right now, and I hope we find the solution in the coming weeks. Go Tech!

 

[RamblinWreck92]

Youre a moron dude
And y no posts when we win? Just a whiner it seems, not a winner

Yer a jackass, dude. Look at my message posting peak after our defeat of BC just 3 weeks ago.

In fairness, there weren't many opportunities in 2015 to make Victory Posts. I don't get too excited about Team Rushing stats against cupcakes.

 

[rosebud]

We need this to go on for at least two pages, it's a long way till Saturday.

 

[gth874t]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

Candidate for post of the year, IMO

 

[gth874t]

Dumb post. Nobody ever believed we'd have an Orange Bowl aberration with Gailey. And even NC teams lose games. It happens.

Time for a rant.

Under Johnson, we've hung near the top of the conference while FSU and Clemson were/are building national championship teams. Outside of those two and maybe VPI, who in the conference would you trade programs with?

Want to improve recruiting? We might do that with a different coach. However, anyone that doesn't think the Hill's restrictions on stupid players (and the practical lack of places to hide them) has a huge effect on performance is a moron. It takes a special person to want to succeed at Tech, and it takes an extremely rare person to succeed at Tech while playing football. Maybe Johnson is to blame for some of the lack in recruiting efforts, but considering that the GTAA specifically refused donations that were to be earmarked for recruiting, I know for a fact there are plenty of administrative problems to be fixed before attacking any coaching-related ones.

Want to be more like Stanford? Great! Let's privatize and let's ööööing do it. Want to be more like Notre Dame? Well, our records are already pretty close and we have a more recent natty than they do. They (unlike Stanford) actually have similar recruiting restrictions to us, so I guess we are already there.

Want to complain about the Oline? Go for it, and based on Thursday's postgame pressed it sounds like Johnson wouldn't argue with you. However, pretending that we're going to bring in someone else that is obviously better is extremely dumb, it would be a dice roll at best.

Consider the paths that Tech and Clemson have taken since Dabo and Johnson started. We could be like Clemson, all it takes is a huge coaching and staffing budget and enough headroom to build a multimillion dollar playpen for borderline retarded players. How much have you donated this year?

/rant

This is golden. Thank you for succinctly addressed most of the complaints that folks bring up.

 

[gth874t]

the greatest defense in America (BC, according to some here)

#8 in defensive yards per play, FWIW (LINK).

(also in that list - Clemson is #4 and ThugU is #1 )

 

[jdubjacket]

I decided to select a poster to compare StingTalk Users' posting activity as a function of Georgia Tech winning/losing during a given week, and you were randomly selected. The results were....fascinating. I will be keeping you up to date on a weekly basis to continue monitoring the trend.

Thank you for your support of Georgia Tech athletics and your contributions to StingTalk.

 

[BarrelORum]

Posters who truly are unhappy with Tech's football program and desire a coaching change are just totally ööööing stupid to me and there really is no other description for them. That said, the people who say that they don't wish to devalue our degree programs have their head stuck so far up their snooty ass, they got öööö for brains.

I was a student between 1991 and 1996. Watched Bobby Ross leave GT for San Diego, Bill Lewis stepped in and quickly ran the program into the ground, then watched O'Leary pick it back up and build it back. I've been a season ticket holder from 1996 through 2013 until kids, time and distance became too much of a factor to renew. That and my disenchantment with GT athletics that started growing with the Chan years. When O'Leary was coach of the Jackets, we had two things going for GT: 1.) We had a lot less self imposed and NCAA restrictions and 2.) We had a coach who pushed the envelope with faculty, etc. so he could bring the caliber of players to Georgia Tech that wouldn't otherwise have made it through GT.

I watched during the Chan years as the school slowly put a vice grip on the balls that are our athletic programs. Particularly football. If you are one of those that believe that GT just needs to hire this flavor of the month coach and all will be fine, Congratulations... you are a moron with no sense of perspective of what we've become academically (Good or bad). I remember in 2008 Yukon Wreck made a post about Georgia Tech "devaluing football for hiring Paul Johnson". He got railed for making that statement, including by me. In reality Yukon wasn't far off. When GT hired Paul Johnson they admitted wholeheartedly that we are a unique school, with unique issues, and we need a unique coach who can level the playing field. That hire wasn't GT devaluing its football program. GT started devaluing its football program the second O'Leary left for Notre Dame. GT the school has not shown the capacity to support a program that would allow for just any successful coach to walk in the doors and compete at the highest level. Georgia Tech does not have the margin of error other schools have to have a successful program. We are also limited in the types of hires we can make in order to stay successful. As a result we are one bad hire away from being a perennial doormat. If you don't understand that, again, you are a ööööing idiot. That's reality. The fact that we've managed unlike other schools to mainly keep our head above water and turn in winning seasons is amazing unto itself. Especially given the fact that GT the school neutered athletics on top of the NCAA requirements for majors a long long time ago.

The bottom line is that if you want GT to compete at the highest level, this is far far deeper than switching coaches out. That's about the dumbest thing we can do. The flip side of this are those that don't want to make the changes necessary to have a chance again of a 1990 season because they don't want the school's academic reputation to somehow stain their degree. Yet these same arrogant know nothing windbags are the same people who fondly recall and cheer on the days of the Kelly Campbell's, Joe Hamilton's, Kenny Anderson's of Tech lore. I got news for you. If those teams and players didn't devalue your degree, which they didn't, why do you believe it will happen again? We've brought in guy after guy after guy through 2001 that had no business being at GT. As a student I watched as a TA walked out of the room during the Calc 2 exam in 1992 and 20 football players, 10 baseball players, and 6 basketball players pulled out the exam answers and proceeded to copy down all the answers and pass it down the line for all the other athletes to do so too. I watched that öööö happen. Did it bother me? öööö no it didn't. That's what happens in big time football. Am I saying we have to cheat to get ahead. Not to that extent but we do have to loosen the reigns and part of that is challenging the NCAA on their core major requirements since that öööö doesn't apply to GT.

IF you want better, the change has to be made at a fundamental level within the school. This isn't an athletic department's choice. You want a winner? You got to get a little dirty. You want to run a clean program in all facets and a tough academic school? Well, this is as good as you are going to get. IT is really that simple.

 

[BuzzLaw]

effindane and bor are right. thanks for taking the time to write all that out. bor, your post may get us in trouble though. i'm sure the ncaa will extend the statute of limitations just to kick us around a little more.

 

[rosebud]

I gets me ejucashun from bamer sos I gotsa difrnt perspective on devalued ejucashun.

What's long and hard on an Alabama football player?

Answer: third grade.

Seriously, that's one major reason I'm a tech fan. Their players can at least speak English. Some concessions towards academics should be, and are waived. I just think it shouldn't be taken to a win at all costs scenario.
Would you really want this guy representing your alma mater?