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Those are bad for global warming so we should use the tiki torches that have those led flicker bulbs and just not tell anybody they aren't real.
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Oh, I don't think so. These threads and posts will be unearthed for decades to come to prove/disprove that my/your candidate would have brought us numerous Nattys/run our program into the ground.

We have entered the age where rampant, groundless speculation is now used as retrospective evidence.
I'd love for someone to dig up CPJ thoughts and predictions from 11 years ago.
 

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The last coaching search our options were Will Muschamp, Charlie Strong, Rick Neuheisel, Chris Hatcher, and Paul Johnson. I was in Paul Johnson's corner on that one. Had been since 2005 as Gailey needed to go. Wasn't thrilled about Gailey. We got that 2007 search right in my opinion. Mostly because our AD lost the confidence in the school by putting all of his support in Muschamp. This search is very different. We have an AD who isn't leaking names or talking to anyone that is executing a plan that we need to be patient with.

Ken Whisenhunt has a proven track record and of those guys that are pretty credible in the league, they support him and talk well of him. Leinart was too busy chasing pussy to be an NFL QB at a high level, so I'll put Rothlisberger and River's opinions over Leinart's any day. Chan Gailey's only real accomplishment as OC of Pitt under Cowher was making Kordell Stewart a tolerable QB. Outside of that he was given a Ferrari in the Dallas Cowboys and proceeded to drive it like Grandma.

Go listen to interviews with Whisenhunt. Guy clearly has more knowledge about this game than the other candidates. The only real question is can he recruit? Just based on his personality that comes across on film, I'd be willing to give him the chance.

I'm not saying he is the ONLY guy for the job. Like I said, would not be disappointed in Geoff Collins as our coach. But for those that are up in arms over The Whiz being the head coach clearly don't know öööö.

Ultimately, I don't think we could get Whiz to come here, but I just don't at all understand the peanut gallery with this guy.
 

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His "proven track record" simply does not have a lot of bearing on what his job will be as a college HC. He hasn't been in the college game in forever, he hasn't recruited, he hasn't coached college kids who have school work, are broke, and immature, and he hasn't hired a staff.

I have no doubt that he knows what he is doing when it comes to running an NFL offense, though.
 

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His "proven track record" simply does not have a lot of bearing on what his job will be as a college HC. He hasn't been in the college game in forever, he hasn't recruited, he hasn't coached college kids who have school work, are broke, and immature, and he hasn't hired a staff.

I have no doubt that he knows what he is doing when it comes to running an NFL offense, though.
No experience running a college program sounds a lot like Elliott, too. Not that the decision is between either of those.
 

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If this is true, i'm expecting a staff mostly in place:

Giff Smith will be DC
Rip Scherer will be OC (OC for Curry in 80's at GT)
Eric Henderson will be DL coach

maybe a few holdovers from current staff for "continuity". Sewak for sure. :)
Please no Rip Scherer....with a cherry on top.
 

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No experience running a college program sounds a lot like Elliott, too. Not that the decision is between either of those.
True to an extent, but he has also been around and observed a strong program with a very strong organizational leader for the past 8 years, so perhaps some of those observations have rubbed off on him. Still a risk because he's never the head coach, but he also does have relevant experiences.
 

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His "proven track record" simply does not have a lot of bearing on what his job will be as a college HC. He hasn't been in the college game in forever, he hasn't recruited, he hasn't coached college kids who have school work, are broke, and immature, and he hasn't hired a staff.

I have no doubt that he knows what he is doing when it comes to running an NFL offense, though.
The same lack of fit argument could be made for about any candidate save Collins. I would trust a man who is in the business who has been around GT to be able to understand how to recruit for it than a guy who has been at a lower level or recruited for a Powerhouse Program like Clemson and not GT. You're rolling the dice with any of them. Gif Smith works alongside Whisenhunt. If Whiz hired Smith in a coordinator role which I'm not sure is even possible, just throwing it out there, I'm not worried about recruiting. Whiz doesn't need to understand recruiting, he needs to make the hire of someone who clearly gets it. Hell, Whisenhunt to me would clearly be a major upgrade over our current recruiting efforts.
 

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Can't help but post this for you clowns to chew on. Anyone, and I mean anyone who is pissed off about potentially having Ken Whisenhunt as the next GT head coach over Satterfield, Tony Elliot, any other 3O coach not named Johnson, or even Geoff Collins is a ööööing dumbass. Like next level stupid.

Whisenhunt isn't Gailey. Go listen to the guy sometime. He clearly has a charisma about him that is needed as a Head Coach and potential recruiter. He learned under Bill Cowher!!! who is arguably one of the top 5 coaches in the last 25 years in professional football! He helped develop Ben Rothlisberger AND Phillip Rivers. In fact Rivers under Whisenhunt is having one of his better career years. This is not like Chan Gailey. NFL QB's couldn't stand Gailey most notably Troy Aikman who ultimately got Gailey fired from Dallas. We should be lucky as hell we could get the Whiz!

You guys want to öööö on a GT connected coach at the highest level for a head coach at an FCS school, a young OC at Clemson who hasn't done öööö, and a recent head coach at a mid major? If Collins turns out to be our coach I will not be disappointed, but all of you poo pooing Ken Whisenhunt are öööö tards of the highest level. This is in a nut shell why I stopped posting over here because the IQ of the average fan on Stingtalk is level pathetic. You guys are still funny, and I enjoy reading on occasion but anyone up in arms against the Whiz is next level stupid.
Were you the guy that predicted Megatron would be a mediocre pro, or the guy that proclaimed Dwyer the next Bo Jackson?
 

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When I went down to the SB in Houston a few years back for the game we won't talk about, some friends and I were checking out the "Official" Falcons Tailgate or whatever and came across a backdrop for pictures and a guy standing there. We asked him to take our picture and he looked confused. It was then that we realized it was Brian Finneran and the backdrop was meant for fans to take pics with him. We still got him to take our pic and moved along, bc who the f wants a pic with mediocre pro Brian Finneran? Wasn't even aware of his disdain for CPJ, the 3O, and GT at the time, but f that guy.
I wasn't either, until I tuned in Thursday last week to hear what they had to say. CPJ refused to go onto that morning show with BF and others some point back, due to some comments that BF apparently made. It's clear that the whole AM lineup was personally against CPJ and the 3O. In a nutshell: "CPJ is a brilliant offensive mind - but he's a poor leader, throws his players under the bus, throws his assistants under the bus, and plays golf every weekend instead of recruiting. The reason Kirby Smart does so much better in recruiting is that he's out there every weekend on the recruiting trail, while CPJ is out playing golf."

I am not exaggerating those comments at all. These things literally came out of their mouths on air the day after CPJ stepped down.
 

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The same lack of fit argument could be made for about any candidate save Collins. I would trust a man who is in the business who has been around GT to be able to understand how to recruit for it than a guy who has been at a lower level or recruited for a Powerhouse Program like Clemson and not GT. You're rolling the dice with any of them. Gif Smith works alongside Whisenhunt. If Whiz hired Smith in a coordinator role which I'm not sure is even possible, just throwing it out there, I'm not worried about recruiting. Whiz doesn't need to understand recruiting, he needs to make the hire of someone who clearly gets it. Hell, Whisenhunt to me would clearly be a major upgrade over our current recruiting efforts.
I agree that they are all risky. And I agree that there are staff members that Whiz could bring in that would convert a lot of the naysayers on his candidacy, Giff being one of them. Griff being another.
 

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In a nutshell: "CPJ is a brilliant offensive mind - but he's a poor leader, throws his players under the bus, throws his assistants under the bus, and plays golf every weekend instead of recruiting. The reason Kirby Smart does so much better in recruiting is that he's out there every weekend on the recruiting trail, while CPJ is out playing golf."

I am not exaggerating those comments at all. These things literally came out of their mouths on air the day after CPJ stepped down.
But are they wrong?
 

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The same lack of fit argument could be made for about any candidate save Collins. I would trust a man who is in the business who has been around GT to be able to understand how to recruit for it than a guy who has been at a lower level or recruited for a Powerhouse Program like Clemson and not GT. You're rolling the dice with any of them. Gif Smith works alongside Whisenhunt. If Whiz hired Smith in a coordinator role which I'm not sure is even possible, just throwing it out there, I'm not worried about recruiting. Whiz doesn't need to understand recruiting, he needs to make the hire of someone who clearly gets it. Hell, Whisenhunt to me would clearly be a major upgrade over our current recruiting efforts.
Why not skip the middle man and hire the guy "who clearly gets it" instead?

Whisenhunt has no recruiting experience at all. The whole process would be a learn as you go experience. Once he learns the ropes it will time for him to retire. It would be like the Bill Curry years all over again, except this time Bill is 60 years old.
 

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Were you the guy that predicted Megatron would be a mediocre pro, or the guy that proclaimed Dwyer the next Bo Jackson?
I claimed Megatron was a mediocre pro when he was turning in <10 point days on my fantasy team. Hence my mediocre poster tag under my handle. Have no idea about Dwyer. Never predicted Dwyer would be like Bo Jackson in the pros but he sure as hell ran like Bo his Junior year on the Flats. To date, the best RB I've seen in a GT uniform was Tony Hollings. Dwyer is a close second. People forget but Kiper had Dwyer as a top 5 pick prior to his last season at GT. That's how good he was.
 

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Put me in the KW corner (just for future reference). Next year's AJC headline--GT takes a "whiz" on Ugag at Grant Field.--i"d like that!
 

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Whisenhunt isn't Gailey. Go listen to the guy sometime. He clearly has a charisma about him that is needed as a Head Coach and potential recruiter. He learned under Bill Cowher!!! who is arguably one of the top 5 coaches in the last 25 years in professional football! He helped develop Ben Rothlisberger AND Phillip Rivers. In fact Rivers under Whisenhunt is having one of his better career years. This is not like Chan Gailey. NFL QB's couldn't stand Gailey most notably Troy Aikman who ultimately got Gailey fired from Dallas. We should be lucky as hell we could get the Whiz!
We know he can work well with NFL QB's, but at least in Rivers case he wasn't developing an inexperienced QB (I don't know when his time at Pitt overlapped with Ben). That is my main concern with what Whisenhunt is bringing from the NFL: can he develop possibly completely raw talent? Putting aside whether or not he can get said talent (itself a question), what we need out the coach is to take inexperienced, possibly new to the position players and get them playing at a high level. The NFL doesn't necessarily prepare you for that and for my part would say overall they are showing their rust in that department now that college isn't trying to mirror the NFL style as much.
 
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