Introductory Press Conference @6pm

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The M-Train said:
Press conference reminded me a lot of Butch Jones’ at Tennessee in 2013. Instead of saying champions of life, he said “attack” and “juice” about 80 times.

Basically every cliche in the book. I get that it’s (really) early on, but I didn’t hear a single concrete plan in the presser, just lots of slick talk.

Guy inherited a team that won 10 games in 2014 and 2015, only won 15 games in 2 years, and lost to an FCS school. Y’all can go nuts with the optimism. I’m not buying it until we win some games.
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Valid points.
 
I'm not terribly impressed. CGC looks to be what he says he is-high energy, genuine, a great recruiter, good with players, etc.

Can he actually do better than CPJ? Color me not impressed. The guy has only 2! years of HC. And being THE guy is much different than being a DC/OC/GA/etc. He has a great pedigree and he did okay at temple. But let's not make it out that he "turned" temple around or was an all world beater at temple.

He was 7-6 and 8-4 the two years prior 2015-2016 were 10-4 . . .so based on that he did worse than his predecessor. I didn't particularly like the comments about "NFL offense". I think most players know that chances of them actually going pro is really small. And the pro don't give a @@## about what offense you played in college. The want to know the basics-what are your combine stats, do you work hard, what are your times, do you block, do you tackle, do you run good routes. The boring, mundane stuff.

We can all admit CGC is here b/c TS made the decision to ditch the TO-the fans are tired of it and so let's bring in something else. Change for change's sake.

At the end of the day, I don't care what offense/defense we run as long as we win-that's the only thing that matters. Either this hire goes really, really well or in 3-5 years we'll say that was a yuuuuge mistake. I can absolutely see CGC as a Dabo Swinney type and the first couple of years with DS I thought he was an idiot-but he recruited really well-he recruited great players AND he recruited great assistants. DS is a great salesman and he knows his strengths and his weaknesses-DS strengths are that he can sell . . .real well . . .weaknesses he can't be the OC and he can't be the DC.

If CGC plays to his strengths which is "recruiting" this could go really well-if CGC recruits the best DC and the best OC and the best players and doesn't try to monkey with what he doesn't know (i.e. offense) and just "repackages" the TO-which does work really, really well-as an "NFL offense, blah, blah, blah"-great he will probably do really, really well.

If he doesn't and he tries to wholesale change the offense or simply just brings his guys from Temple here-this will go really, really poorly. If he can be the Dabo Swinney of GT-this will be an awesome hire-if he tries to do anything else this will go very poorly.

We are so used to (after 11 years!) of having the HC as the OC that if we expect CGC to have as much control over the OC as CPJ bad news.

The old saying "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." might apply here. We'll find out in 3 years if this was good or bad-we won't need 7, you can tell in about 2-3 years by the coordinators he "recruits" and the players he "recruits" if this is going to work out.

CPJ downfall was that he could never "recruit" a good defensive coordinator . . .for whatever reason. If only one time during his 11 years we'd had an awesome defense we'd be National Champs.

But that's my 2 cents.
 
GTStoner said:
I'm not terribly impressed. CGC looks to be what he says he is-high energy, genuine, a great recruiter, good with players, etc.

Can he actually do better than CPJ? Color me not impressed. The guy has only 2! years of HC. And being THE guy is much different than being a DC/OC/GA/etc. He has a great pedigree and he did okay at temple. But let's not make it out that he "turned" temple around or was an all world beater at temple.

He was 7-6 and 8-4 the two years prior 2015-2016 were 10-4 . . .so based on that he did worse than his predecessor. I didn't particularly like the comments about "NFL offense". I think most players know that chances of them actually going pro is really small. And the pro don't give a @@## about what offense you played in college. The want to know the basics-what are your combine stats, do you work hard, what are your times, do you block, do you tackle, do you run good routes. The boring, mundane stuff.

We can all admit CGC is here b/c TS made the decision to ditch the TO-the fans are tired of it and so let's bring in something else. Change for change's sake.

At the end of the day, I don't care what offense/defense we run as long as we win-that's the only thing that matters. Either this hire goes really, really well or in 3-5 years we'll say that was a yuuuuge mistake. I can absolutely see CGC as a Dabo Swinney type and the first couple of years with DS I thought he was an idiot-but he recruited really well-he recruited great players AND he recruited great assistants. DS is a great salesman and he knows his strengths and his weaknesses-DS strengths are that he can sell . . .real well . . .weaknesses he can't be the OC and he can't be the DC.

If CGC plays to his strengths which is "recruiting" this could go really well-if CGC recruits the best DC and the best OC and the best players and doesn't try to monkey with what he doesn't know (i.e. offense) and just "repackages" the TO-which does work really, really well-as an "NFL offense, blah, blah, blah"-great he will probably do really, really well.

If he doesn't and he tries to wholesale change the offense or simply just brings his guys from Temple here-this will go really, really poorly. If he can be the Dabo Swinney of GT-this will be an awesome hire-if he tries to do anything else this will go very poorly.

We are so used to (after 11 years!) of having the HC as the OC that if we expect CGC to have as much control over the OC as CPJ bad news.

The old saying "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." might apply here. We'll find out in 3 years if this was good or bad-we won't need 7, you can tell in about 2-3 years by the coordinators he "recruits" and the players he "recruits" if this is going to work out.

CPJ downfall was that he could never "recruit" a good defensive coordinator . . .for whatever reason. If only one time during his 11 years we'd had an awesome defense we'd be National Champs.

But that's my 2 cents.
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OK dude. You joined in 2007. You are posting now. What's the deal?
 
The M-Train said:
Much more enjoyable to expect nothing and be pleasantly surprised by a good team than the opposite.

Surely you know that if you’re a Tech fan.
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No. öööö that. We're not doing that öööö anymore. Thats the sort of pessimist loser attitude that got us where we are. Its a new day. Expect big, get big.
 
The M-Train said:
Press conference reminded me a lot of Butch Jones’ at Tennessee in 2013. Instead of saying champions of life, he said “attack” and “juice” about 80 times.

Basically every cliche in the book. I get that it’s (really) early on, but I didn’t hear a single concrete plan in the presser, just lots of slick talk.

Guy inherited a team that won 10 games in 2014 and 2015, only won 15 games in 2 years, and lost to an FCS school. Y’all can go nuts with the optimism. I’m not buying it until we win some games.
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Same here.

Did we loosen up the academic restrictions? CGC did great while he was here recruiting, but 2001 and 2007 are way different than 2018.
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/academic-progress-rate-timeline

APR penalities had started in '05 so you can't count what he did under O'leary (anyone remember THAT academic fiasco!). And APR penalties are much higher today than in '07. Avg APR 900 then, now it is 940.

As much as CGC talks about "swag" there are fixed realities of GT football-called academics-that unless or until degrees are opened up it's just tough. I love the attitude that CGC has that it's not "challenges" it's "incentives"-that's great salesman BS-but at the end of the day it is BS b/c some of the "elite" athletes can't to algebra and if they can't do algebra they won't make it here. That's just a fact.

I hope his razzle, dazzle BS works, just like it worked for Swinney-if it does I'll be tickled pink-but I'm not holding my breath either.
 
GTStoner said:
Same here.

Did we loosen up the academic restrictions? CGC did great while he was here recruiting, but 2001 and 2007 are way different than 2018.
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/academic-progress-rate-timeline

APR penalities had started in '05 so you can't count what he did under O'leary (anyone remember THAT academic fiasco!). And APR penalties are much higher today than in '07. Avg APR 900 then, now it is 940.

As much as CGC talks about "swag" there are fixed realities of GT football-called academics-that unless or until degrees are opened up it's just tough. I love the attitude that CGC has that it's not "challenges" it's "incentives"-that's great salesman BS-but at the end of the day it is BS b/c some of the "elite" athletes can't to algebra and if they can't do algebra they won't make it here. That's just a fact.

I hope his razzle, dazzle BS works, just like it worked for Swinney-if it does I'll be tickled pink-but I'm not holding my breath either.
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Well, he's really only talked about GT for a few minutes so far. Lets calm down sparky
 
GTStoner said:
Nice welcome . . .jerk . . .

I'll probably go away until next coach is hired . . .life is busy-I'm one of the "silent majority"-I lurk a bunch, I watch every game, etc. etc. etc.
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Welcome? Your welcome was in 2007, moron. And a "silent majority" needs to sit there and meekly be silent if they get butthurt so easily.
 
JJacket said:
Welcome? Your welcome was in 2007, moron. And a "silent majority" needs to sit there and meekly be silent if they get butthurt so easily.
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I'm not butthurt- just calling out BS. I guess you're a jerk too.

Lot's of jerks in this world-glad you could join the ranks.
 
GTStoner said:
I'm not terribly impressed. CGC looks to be what he says he is-high energy, genuine, a great recruiter, good with players, etc.

Can he actually do better than CPJ? Color me not impressed. The guy has only 2! years of HC. And being THE guy is much different than being a DC/OC/GA/etc. He has a great pedigree and he did okay at temple. But let's not make it out that he "turned" temple around or was an all world beater at temple.

He was 7-6 and 8-4 the two years prior 2015-2016 were 10-4 . . .so based on that he did worse than his predecessor. I didn't particularly like the comments about "NFL offense". I think most players know that chances of them actually going pro is really small. And the pro don't give a @@## about what offense you played in college. The want to know the basics-what are your combine stats, do you work hard, what are your times, do you block, do you tackle, do you run good routes. The boring, mundane stuff.

We can all admit CGC is here b/c TS made the decision to ditch the TO-the fans are tired of it and so let's bring in something else. Change for change's sake.

At the end of the day, I don't care what offense/defense we run as long as we win-that's the only thing that matters. Either this hire goes really, really well or in 3-5 years we'll say that was a yuuuuge mistake. I can absolutely see CGC as a Dabo Swinney type and the first couple of years with DS I thought he was an idiot-but he recruited really well-he recruited great players AND he recruited great assistants. DS is a great salesman and he knows his strengths and his weaknesses-DS strengths are that he can sell . . .real well . . .weaknesses he can't be the OC and he can't be the DC.

If CGC plays to his strengths which is "recruiting" this could go really well-if CGC recruits the best DC and the best OC and the best players and doesn't try to monkey with what he doesn't know (i.e. offense) and just "repackages" the TO-which does work really, really well-as an "NFL offense, blah, blah, blah"-great he will probably do really, really well.

If he doesn't and he tries to wholesale change the offense or simply just brings his guys from Temple here-this will go really, really poorly. If he can be the Dabo Swinney of GT-this will be an awesome hire-if he tries to do anything else this will go very poorly.

We are so used to (after 11 years!) of having the HC as the OC that if we expect CGC to have as much control over the OC as CPJ bad news.

The old saying "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." might apply here. We'll find out in 3 years if this was good or bad-we won't need 7, you can tell in about 2-3 years by the coordinators he "recruits" and the players he "recruits" if this is going to work out.

CPJ downfall was that he could never "recruit" a good defensive coordinator . . .for whatever reason. If only one time during his 11 years we'd had an awesome defense we'd be National Champs.

But that's my 2 cents.
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To be blunt, you're as wrong as can be about the NFL. They absolutely evaluate the scheme you were in and how well it translates. You can make it in spite of that with superior measurables, but it's a big chunk of the evaluation process.

We can agree that his success will be predicated by his assistant hires.
 
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