Houston Fires Major Applewhite

Houston has pretty frequent 10 win seasons for a mid major, but they have a ton of 8-5 and worse over the last 15 years. In fact, I think they've done better than that just 4 times?

I think (hope?) he was fired for other reasons than that the AD thinks anybody ought to be able to win a dozen games a season there. That'd be delusional.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
Houston has pretty frequent 10 win seasons for a mid major, but they have a ton of 8-5 and worse over the last 15 years. In fact, I think they've done better than that just 4 times?

I think (hope?) he was fired for other reasons than that the AD thinks anybody ought to be able to win a dozen games a season there. That'd be delusional.
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He was fired because there is a billionaire who has made UH his personal play toy and has a president and AD who are willing to allow him to decide everything so long as money is flowing. They want Dana Holgorson.
 
JJacket said:
Houston is a total dumpster fire controlled by a few delusional rich donors. Look for SMU style violations within the next 5 years.
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Nah

The NCAA isn't into those kinda penalities anymore

The Bama player's parking lot is reminiscent of the player's prkg lot from the Eric Dickerson days at SMU

The NCAA thinks Bama is running a clean program, not a sniff from the NCAA
 
savbandjacket said:
He was fired because there is a billionaire who has made UH his personal play toy and has a president and AD who are willing to allow him to decide everything so long as money is flowing. They want Dana Holgorson.
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Not likely to go from P5 to G5 as a HC, unless you get canned
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
On the way in the door he was told by the school Prez, "we fire coaches for going 8-4", delusional or not he knew the ground rules

I wish we had a Prez that was passionate about winning in FB
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Houston FB is a dumpster fire. The administration is clearly incompetent and mismanaged this from the time Applewhite was hired.

https://sports.yahoo.com/major-appl...inistrative-clown-show-houston-233551453.html

Citing them as a positive example is just par for the course for you, though.
 
johncu said:
Houston FB is a dumpster fire. The administration is clearly incompetent and mismanaged this from the time Applewhite was hired.

https://sports.yahoo.com/major-appl...inistrative-clown-show-houston-233551453.html

Citing them as a positive example is just par for the course for you, though.
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So 1 opinion from 1 Yahoo sportswriter makes his opinion the Gospel and means UH is a Clownshow

In the last 15 yrs (??) UH has had these HCs

Briles

Sumlin

Hermann

Applewhite

Their track record of hiring HCs is better than GT's

I wouldn't call them a Clownshow

Typical judgmental smarminess from the typical know-it-all GT fan that isn't as smart as he thinks he is WRT CFB
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
So 1 opinion from 1 Yahoo sportswriter makes his opinion the Gospel and means UH is a Clownshow

In the last 15 yrs (??) UH has had these HCs

Briles

Sumlin

Hermann

Applewhite

Their track record of hiring HCs is better than GT's

I wouldn't call them a Clownshow

Typical judgmental smarminess from the typical know-it-all GT fan that isn't as smart as he thinks he is WRT CFB
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Briles did better than 8-4 in one season out of 5 (his 4th). Sumlin went 8-4 his 1st season and 5-7 his 3rd (his 2nd was indeed better). Then they hired a coach who performed same level or worse than Applewhite (Tony Levine) and gave him 3 yrs. Hermann's success is the only thing that seems like it would justify this outcome, and given that his best year was the first I wonder if Levine deserves any credit for that.

They have some reason to expect better results overall, but if the firing was purely over performance (how it seems from what is currently know), it is a pretty crazy-sounding move. Any situation where it appears a donor is controlling a program by dint of excessive money is clownshow-ish.
 
GTLiebs said:
Briles did better than 8-4 in one season out of 5 (his 4th). Sumlin went 8-4 his 1st season and 5-7 his 3rd (his 2nd was indeed better). Then they hired a coach who performed same level or worse than Applewhite (Tony Levine) and gave him 3 yrs. Hermann's success is the only thing that seems like it would justify this outcome, and given that his best year was the first I wonder if Levine deserves any credit for that.

They have some reason to expect better results overall, but if the firing was purely over performance (how it seems from what is currently know), it is a pretty crazy-sounding move. Any situation where it appears a donor is controlling a program by dint of excessive money is clownshow-ish.
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Didn't Kim King & Taz Anderson wield a lot of influence over GT's FB program impacting hiring decisions

I don't know to what extent, but rumors are they impacted hiring decisions of GT FB coaches
 
JJacket said:
Houston is a total dumpster fire controlled by a few delusional rich donors. Look for SMU style violations within the next 5 years.
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Stop. You're giving me SMU PTSD. My freshman year homecoming was a soccer game.
 
GTLiebs said:
Briles did better than 8-4 in one season out of 5 (his 4th). Sumlin went 8-4 his 1st season and 5-7 his 3rd (his 2nd was indeed better). Then they hired a coach who performed same level or worse than Applewhite (Tony Levine) and gave him 3 yrs. Hermann's success is the only thing that seems like it would justify this outcome, and given that his best year was the first I wonder if Levine deserves any credit for that.

They have some reason to expect better results overall, but if the firing was purely over performance (how it seems from what is currently know), it is a pretty crazy-sounding move. Any situation where it appears a donor is controlling a program by dint of excessive money is clownshow-ish.
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But most of these coaches were not fired, correct?

2 of them were hired by the 2 richest athletic programs in college sports.
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
Didn't Kim King & Taz Anderson wield a lot of influence over GT's FB program impacting hiring decisions

I don't know to what extent, but rumors are they impacted hiring decisions of GT FB coaches
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And before them Mr George Morris and a bunch of great players/alums from the 50’s dynasties. I believe a lot of them influenced the hiring of “Tech” men. Along with Mr. Chip.
 
GTLiebs said:
Briles did better than 8-4 in one season out of 5 (his 4th). Sumlin went 8-4 his 1st season and 5-7 his 3rd (his 2nd was indeed better). Then they hired a coach who performed same level or worse than Applewhite (Tony Levine) and gave him 3 yrs. Hermann's success is the only thing that seems like it would justify this outcome, and given that his best year was the first I wonder if Levine deserves any credit for that.

They have some reason to expect better results overall, but if the firing was purely over performance (how it seems from what is currently know), it is a pretty crazy-sounding move. Any situation where it appears a donor is controlling a program by dint of excessive money is clownshow-ish.
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UH has been knocking it out of the park with their coaching hires over the past two decades.
 
18in32 said:
UH has been knocking it out of the park with their coaching hires over the past two decades.
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Temple

Al Golden
Steve Adazzio
Matt Rhule
CGC
Manny Diaz

Not as impressive as Houston but impressive for a small, private, basketball school in Philadelphia. UH hires are just insane. So, the two schools that makes the best hires consistently are both looking for coaches right now.
 
thwg said:
Temple

Al Golden
Steve Adazzio
Matt Rhule
CGC
Manny Diaz

Not as impressive as Houston but impressive for a small, private, basketball school in Philadelphia. UH hires are just insane. So, the two schools that makes the best hires consistently are both looking for coaches right now.
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Yeah, it's a self-perpetuating problem. Keep hiring good coaches causes you to keep losing good coaches. Better than the alternative.
 
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