But Can Collins "Coach"?

[ncjacket]

His defense was really good at Florida, but was it that much better than it was before he got there or after he left? Here are Florida's recent national defensive FEI rankings (not looking at ppg allowed because their offense screwed them some years):

2011: 46
2012: 1
2013: 7
2014: 5
--Collins hired as Florida DC---
2015: 22
2016: 6
--Collins goes to Temple--
2017: 55
2018: 26

So you are only a good coach if you improve a bad situation?

 

[Ish]

I dont know if we can say CPJ hated recruiting. He had handicaps both from his offensive scheme and the amount of resources provided to him. And no he's not the Dabo type, use God, use social media, do catchy monikers, show up at midnight at a recruit's house type of coach. But that's what recruiting is now. It's showmanship and CPJ is an old school ball coach. Which unfortunately doesn't work anymore. I'm happy we're doing what it takes now but I dont feel like we need to öööö on CPJ to feel better about the new stuff.

You're right, but there were things CPJ could've done better that didn't require him to be some larger than life Dabo personality....like hold more camps in the summer, cut bait on subpar coaches on his staff, offer more guys early, etc.

 

[JOJATK]

You're right, but there were things CPJ could've done better that didn't require him to be some larger than life Dabo personality....like hold more camps in the summer, cut bait on subpar coaches on his staff, offer more guys early, etc.

While you may be right it really isn't relevant anymore the things they could have done differently, is it?

 

[Ish]

While you may be right it really isn't relevant anymore the things they could have done differently, is it?

It's relevant when people bring up CPJ and act like he was at the mercy of forces beyond his control when it comes to all things recruiting. Sure that's true for a good portion of it, but not all of it

 

[gtleviathan]

While you may be right it really isn't relevant anymore the things they could have done differently, is it?

 

[AJASjacket]

Graduation rate will drop off cuz we’ll be sending players to the league after their junior year.

But it’s the price we have to pay

Mind Right

 

[daBuzz]

We have the showman now. I hope their is some substance to him and not all smoke and mirrors. Only time will tell.

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[ncjacket]

We have the showman now. I hope their is some substance to him and not all smoke and mirrors. Only time will tell.

So the former DC at FL and Miss State who was hired away from us by Saban is smoke and mirrors?

 

[TechRush]

So the former DC at FL and Miss State who was hired away from us by Saban is smoke and mirrors?

Could be, only time will tell. He has never been at a stop very long. Hopefully he is not smoke and mirrors, and he wins, and is at Tech forever.

 

[sthorfinnr]

He had some ridiculous DB talent at Florida. I hope he can parlay that into some #biGTime recruits at that position.

DB is the one area where we're already recruiting well. Lots of talent there: Juanyeh, Kaleb Oliver, Carpenter, Tre Swilling, etc.

 

[LeonardWood]

So you are only a good coach if you improve a bad situation?

Are you @johncu's angry hungry girlfriend?

 

[LeonardWood]

We don't even know if Collins can recruit.

With that said, it appears we are rocketing in the right direction. Just need to execute on the hype and sustain season over season momentum.

 

[18in32]

We don't even know if Collins can recruit.

When you really think about it, we don't *really* know anything.

 

[johncu]

So you are only a good coach if you improve a bad situation?

I'm not saying anything. I just looked up the stats because I was curious, and posted them here. Muschamp got a lot of credit for having great defenses at Florida, and it looks like Collins' defenses were just as good. Hopefully he can put together some good offenses here as well.