New 2019 signee- OLB Kendall Young

Techbert

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And speed, can’t coach that
Can't tell is serious, sarcastic, or doing the Stingtalk thing. So I will answer seriously.

Speed only matters for certain positions. Corner and wideout are the obvious. Speed helps everywhere, sure, but it is only one of a laundry list.
(And you can coach it some.) It blurs with quickness a lot of times as well, and those are two very different things.

What we sometimes call speed is really just athleticism, how well the person moves. If a pass rusher has good bend and technique and is an athlete, we look at his get-off and burst and say he has speed. Then he is timed at 5.0 and we do not see how it is possible.

For a pass-rusher, you don't look at the 40, except to make sure it is not out of whack. You look at 10 yard split, 3-cone, and 20 yard shuttle, for the "speed rusher." Those are all measures of quickness. For the power rushers, you look at body mass, vertical jump, and long jump, and 3-cone as a check.

But the best test of athleticism, and it took me a while to step away from the analytics on this, is to just look at a guy move. If he moves easily, shows bend, has loose hips, instinctively knows how to plant his feet and has good acceleration, he's athletic enough to get to the quarterback. The only thing left is to teach him technique and teach him how to plan. Then it becomes like a baseball pitcher mixing up pitches to set up a key swinging miss at the right moment.

The toughest part to me on these high school clips is that HS offensive linemen suck. The easiest way to succeed as a rusher is to hand-slap so he does not get to your body and jet past him. It really is that easy for the 3 to 5 star kids. So why develop a hump move or push pull when you can just speed rip or speed chop? The kid uses a bull rush not as a serious technique, but to set up the speed moves later. That's a shame, cuz a well-executed bull rush is the heart of beating a sound offensive lineman. Anyway, I digress. My point is that the kids don't show their bend, cuz they don't have to bend. The OT is never good enough in the hudl clips to bend them.

That's one reason I trust coaches who get these kids in camps, see how they learn, and see what they show against the top competition. You go against a five star OT, you're going to have to show bend. You go against the school one town over and you just pick the prettiest rushes for the vid, after spending all night beating him like a drum. Worthless for scouting.

With all that said, Young looks on hudl like a good speed rusher. He also looks good dropping back, and while I don't think they plan on doing that if he is about 250#, it is good that he moves easily enough to do that without looking out of place. He already gets his hands up to deflect passes, which is bonus at this stage. He's smart enough with books. Hopefully he is smart enough to absorb coaching. Between Marco, Andrew, and Geoff, he should get a sound foundation.
 

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He is only 215 pounds, so they are looking at him as an edge rusher, he is likely a project for a year or two down the road. With his height perhaps he can add mass quickly. He could well be 250# by the time he's a redshirt soph and ready to really contribute.
 

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He is only 215 pounds, so they are looking at him as an edge rusher, he is likely a project for a year or two down the road. With his height perhaps he can add mass quickly. He could well be 250# by the time he's a redshirt soph and ready to really contribute.
He’ll be 240 by August. He’ll be fine as a stand up rusher this fall
 

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A co worker of mine who played in the league for a few years, and a guy heavily involved in coaching and player development has been singing this kid's praise to me from the beginning. I am very excited to see what he can do as he continues to put weight on and get after it with the new staff. Always great to be a jacket, but def some real excitement building around the new regime.
 

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Can't tell is serious, sarcastic, or doing the Stingtalk thing. So I will answer seriously.

Speed only matters for certain positions. Corner and wideout are the obvious. Speed helps everywhere, sure, but it is only one of a laundry list.
(And you can coach it some.) It blurs with quickness a lot of times as well, and those are two very different things.

What we sometimes call speed is really just athleticism, how well the person moves. If a pass rusher has good bend and technique and is an athlete, we look at his get-off and burst and say he has speed. Then he is timed at 5.0 and we do not see how it is possible.

For a pass-rusher, you don't look at the 40, except to make sure it is not out of whack. You look at 10 yard split, 3-cone, and 20 yard shuttle, for the "speed rusher." Those are all measures of quickness. For the power rushers, you look at body mass, vertical jump, and long jump, and 3-cone as a check.

But the best test of athleticism, and it took me a while to step away from the analytics on this, is to just look at a guy move. If he moves easily, shows bend, has loose hips, instinctively knows how to plant his feet and has good acceleration, he's athletic enough to get to the quarterback. The only thing left is to teach him technique and teach him how to plan. Then it becomes like a baseball pitcher mixing up pitches to set up a key swinging miss at the right moment.

The toughest part to me on these high school clips is that HS offensive linemen suck. The easiest way to succeed as a rusher is to hand-slap so he does not get to your body and jet past him. It really is that easy for the 3 to 5 star kids. So why develop a hump move or push pull when you can just speed rip or speed chop? The kid uses a bull rush not as a serious technique, but to set up the speed moves later. That's a shame, cuz a well-executed bull rush is the heart of beating a sound offensive lineman. Anyway, I digress. My point is that the kids don't show their bend, cuz they don't have to bend. The OT is never good enough in the hudl clips to bend them.

That's one reason I trust coaches who get these kids in camps, see how they learn, and see what they show against the top competition. You go against a five star OT, you're going to have to show bend. You go against the school one town over and you just pick the prettiest rushes for the vid, after spending all night beating him like a drum. Worthless for scouting.

With all that said, Young looks on hudl like a good speed rusher. He also looks good dropping back, and while I don't think they plan on doing that if he is about 250#, it is good that he moves easily enough to do that without looking out of place. He already gets his hands up to deflect passes, which is bonus at this stage. He's smart enough with books. Hopefully he is smart enough to absorb coaching. Between Marco, Andrew, and Geoff, he should get a sound foundation.
Cool story bro
 

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I am beginning to hate these "news stories" more and more.

GT issues statement on Young's situation, click to read it here:

{CLICK}

GT: "We are aware of the situation."
Yeah, to save others the click, the full statement reads

“Georgia Tech is aware of the situation, and his application was reviewed through the normal admissions and athletics process. After considering all details, an athletics scholarship was offered.”

They must have issued this to appease the old dudes over at the Swarm.
 

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This thread is getting salty. It is about to all bust aloose
 
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