Sims + Clayton

Helluva Entrepreneur

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Yeah, but those schools have at least been good at football.

VPI is known for an empty trophy case and playing some ööööty Metallica.
I appreciate the hate, but Clemson was nothing until 5 years ago either. VT with Vick and under Beamer became a powerhouse and a national brand, even if they didnt bring home the crystal ball. Pretty similar success to UGA during that time frame, actually.

I do strongly dislike them though.
 

gtrower

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You guys will have to better describe your qualifications for who is "big and powerful" enough to get waivers pushed through. Again, Rutgers?? VT has had as many prime-time national spotlight games as anyone the past 20 years and will surely be touted by this board as a corrupt football factory as bad as anyone in the ACC anytime they beat us.
Do you even football. Nobody outside of your moms basement has ever, ever confused VPI with a factory.
 

JoeCakeEater

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Apparently Sims parents' noise (and Jeremy Pruitt's) had a lot to do with him (and Solomon) getting their waivers. All reports are that Clayton had the strongest case but his family chose to keep it private. Squeaky wheel gets the grease with NCAA.
I have no intimate knowledge of either situation....but this pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter. Sims' family raising a stink when his initial claim was denied definitely helped in my opinion. The NCAA doesn't want the bad national pub that his situation was starting to gain. Clayton and his family keeping quiet meant an easy denial for the NCAA.

Next question...can you appeal an appeal? Time to lawyer up...
 

GoGATech

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I have no intimate knowledge of either situation....but this pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter. Sims' family raising a stink when his initial claim was denied definitely helped in my opinion. The NCAA doesn't want the bad national pub that his situation was starting to gain. Clayton and his family keeping quiet meant an easy denial for the NCAA.

Next question...can you appeal an appeal? Time to lawyer up...
I'm not sure at what point the end is, but there is one. I think Clayton may have waited too late.
 

BrentwoodJacket

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This whole process is much too subjective and based on the biases of anonymous NCAA officials. The only fair rule is a one time transfer with no waiting period with severe penalties for tampering before the player enters the transfer portal. The power schools will scoop up some players. I believe there will be more players leaving power schools for the opportunity to earn playing time. Family driven transfers will flow both ways. This would provide a fair and objective process.
 

gtrower

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Clayton's next step is likely to apply for an extra year because of injuries at UF.
Played in 5 games before getting hurt In 2016. Played in 9 in 2017. RSed 2018. Got ööööed in 2019. I don’t see how theyre gonna give him a 6th year based off that 5-game frosh season.

They just stole a year from the kid.
 

goldmember

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I don't know if this has always been the case but it's clear that the NCAA is a political organization that makes politically motivated decisions. Otherwise there would be clearly defined rules for transfer eligibility.
 
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