Holy smolies

How about this: Paul Johnson made bowl games in 2 of his last 4 years here, with his players and his system already in place for several years. If Collins can't make bowl games in 2 of his first 4 years here, while gradually adding in his players, then the excuse is no longer valid.

And I agree totally with that statement.
 
How about this: Paul Johnson made bowl games in 2 of his last 4 years here, with his players and his system already in place for several years. If Collins can't make bowl games in 2 of his first 4 years here, while gradually adding in his players, then the excuse is no longer valid.

How about this: if CGC wins his division a few times and avoids scheduling Citadel again we call it a wash?
 
WE ARE ALAFREAKINGBAMA EVERYONE!!!

In all seriousness, I do consider that and hope we are on the same trajectory. It’s obvious we are going to need absolute five star elite players in order to line up with the citadels of thr world

Well they were tied with Bama at halftime last year...
 
How about this: if CGC wins the ACC in his first two years and avoids scheduling Citadel again we call it a wash?

How about this: If we put future NFL draft picks at WR, RB, FS, and the entire DL, we get ourselves an apples-to-apples comparison?

Edit: And we'd also need 2019 Clemson to regress to 2009 Clemson, since an 8-4 team was the best the Atlantic had to offer the year we won...
 
I remember how Bama also öööö the bed and lost the game. The parallels are crazy.

Still gave a team trouble that has worlds more talent than we do. They also beat SC a few years back. It sucks that we lost to an FCS team that we have the talent to beat, but I don't think we need to fire the new coach or cancel the program just yet.
 
How about this: If we put future NFL draft picks at WR, RB, FS, and the entire DL, we get ourselves an apples-to-apples comparison?

again, CITADEL. We didn’t lost to Clemson today. We lost to a bad FCS team. If you’re blaming CPJ for a team he would beat by 40 then you’re gonna get ripped one here.

I’m still a CGC supporter. Both with season tickets and donations. But that gives me the right to öööö on him when he öööös up. And we just witnessed the mother of all öööö ups.
 
We went to a bowl game last year. Why shouldn’t we go to a bowl game this year?

You've watched college football long enough to know that team results often vary quite a bit from year to year. The simplistic argument you're making is silly.
 
again, CITADEL. We didn’t lost to Clemson today. We lost to a bad FCS team. If you’re blaming CPJ for a team he would beat by 40 then you’re gonna get ripped one here.

I’m still a CGC supporter. Both with season tickets and donations. But that gives me the right to öööö on him when he öööös up. And we just witnessed the mother of all öööö ups.

Of course it does. But your kicking and screaming isn't accomplishing anything. You certainly have a right to do it, though. This was a terrible loss for sure. I guess I'm just taking a long-term view on this rather than a myopic one.
 
You've watched college football to know that team results often vary quite a bit from year to year. The simplistic argument you're making is silly.

You don’t have to be a great team to go to a bowl game. 6-6 gets you there. There is no way this happens with this team and a 1-11 record is not acceptable for this team in my book.
 
You don’t have to be a great team to go to a bowl game. 6-6 gets you there. There is no way this happens with this team and a 1-11 record is not acceptable for this team in my book.

So in lieu of accepting it, what are you going to do?
 
You don’t have to be a great team to go to a bowl game. 6-6 gets you there. There is no way this happens with this team and a 1-11 record is not acceptable for this team in my book.

Maybe we can go 1-11 and apply for an exception?
 
So in lieu of accepting it, what are you going to do?

Vent.

This is the first time I’ve ever come on here after a game and bitched. Feel free to go back and look. But I feel strongly that these coaches need to stop ööööing around and start coaching football. This team looks like they were given the entire week off.
 
The question is whether this is a aberration or whether this is an indication of how we will play the rest of the season. I am much more concerned about the performance of the coach than the performance of the players. If we play and coach at this level for the remainder of the season, we will finish 1 and 11 and the losses will not be in OT. Coach Collins has to learn that some players perform better in games and some players perform much worse.
 
Of course it does. But your kicking and screaming isn't accomplishing anything. You certainly have a right to do it, though. This was a terrible loss for sure. I guess I'm just taking a long-term view on this rather than a myopic one.

You’re taking a bitch view is what you’re taking. But keep apologizing for FCS losses. We’ll see how many it takes for your heart rate to rise.

We’re one Temple loss away from being Tennessee right now. Tenne life champion ssee. That’s what we’ve sunk to.
 
You’re taking a bitch view is what you’re taking. But keep apologizing for FCS losses. We’ll see how many it takes for your heart rate to rise.

We’re one Temple loss away from being Tennessee right now. Tenne life champion ssee. That’s what we’ve sunk to.
UT smoked their cupcake today
 
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