Patenaude

coit said:
That is one hell of a scary hot take.
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It's the truth, at least the UCF stuff. Brent went from head-coach-in-waiting to fired in the span of nine months because his 2015 offense was one of the worst FBS offenses statistically in the 21st century. He's a good offensive line coach but his game planning in 2015 was atrocious.
 
Ed Sawyer said:
Oh god, don't do that. Brent has already got one staff fired because he doesn't know how to put a game plan together. We don't need Tashard and Marco and the rest in the unemployment line because of Brent's inept play calling.

In fact, I'd be curious to know how much Brent is involved in our game planning currently. Our jumbled mess of an offense looks eerily similar to his 2015 offense at UCF.
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That team that had more injuries than we did in 2015
 
smokey_wasp said:
More and more, I am thinking that Patenaude got the gig because no OC on an upward career trajectory would want to take on the transition. He is also being paid lower than a bargain basement salary, essentially position coach level. His background gave hope he could make the best of what we have, but I doubt he was ever intended to be here long.
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This was my take as well
 
JacketForLife said:
As usual, Ed Sawyer is wrong.
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Well I get what you said about injuries, and all. But why was he fired if injuries were the issue? Was that a part of the overall coaching change after GOL?
 
coit said:
Well I get what you said about injuries, and all. But why was he fired if injuries were the issue? Was that a part of the overall coaching change after GOL?
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Everyone knew O'Leary was retiring soon and Brent was the heir apparent. He was given OC duties and flopped so bad the entire staff was fired. If UCF had even a decent showing in 2015, Brent would've been officially named head coach after the season.
 
Miami is purgatory on earth. Maybe close to hell.

Shouldn't be too hard to offer someone salvation from that ööööhole.


BrentwoodJacket said:
After this season, we need to spend whatever is required to hire George Godsey as the Offensive Coordinator. He is currently the TE coach in Miami. We can make this happen.
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coit said:
Well I get what you said about injuries, and all. But why was he fired if injuries were the issue? Was that a part of the overall coaching change after GOL?
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Well, he wasn’t fired. O’Leary resigned after game 6. After the injury decimation.

There are many debates to this day what happened on the UCF version of StinGTalk. Essentially it boils down to-

The team quit after all the injuries.


TS had left for Oregon St. the June before the season. Danny “The Man” White wasn’t hired until November.

The year was a giant öööö show, a lot of it due to GOL’s style of coaching is the word I got from admin and players. Key gets blamed by uninformed trolls trying to spin narratives that really have no idea what they’re talking about.
 
JacketForLife said:
Well, he wasn't fired. ... Key gets blamed by uninformed trolls trying to spin narratives that really have no idea what they’re talking about.
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Brent was absolutely fired from UCF. The entire staff was.

I know you want to protect the guy because you played for him and like him, but don't lie about it.
 
This is Tucker said:
They can't block the package that they have Johnson running. An fcs defense was running loose in the backfield like they were Clemmons or something...
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Yep. An offense comprised mostly of OL recruits that we beat out the Elons of football for got dominated all day by a team that Elon beat.
 
JacketForLife said:
It’s way more complicated than you’re making it
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Brent had a $700k buyout if he didn't get the head coaching job at UCF. He was fired after the 2015 season and was paid $700k. Those are facts and they ain't complicated at all.
 
gnats67 said:
I had my doubts about the coordinators that CGC was bringing along. Doubts confirmed in week 3. Also ST. Whose idea exactly was it to play Brenton King? That decision alone would make you question someone's sanity. I mean WTF??? Something wrong with this pic.
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Were you at the game yesterday? I'm guessing the answer is no because not only did Wells miss the first extra point, but pre-game and at half time, he was struggling like hell. First kick after half time doinked off the right goal post from 30 yards and then he proceeded to miss 4 consecutive before he finally made one.

PERHAPS, just PERHAPS the coaches have seen something like this in practice and figured, "Maybe the guy has the yips" because I can guarantee you that's what it looked like yesterday.
 
It would have been better if we had lost to USF. The response to that game should have been, "Holy öööö, the offense is a disaster, we need to do something urgently!" Instead it's all pats on the back and Collins doesn't say anything about fixing the offense. He just thought it was great how well we handled sudden change situations. Well, sudden change situation, you're on the hot seat buddy!
 
Was listening to SiriusXM earlier this past week (Full Ride w/ Childers and Neuheisel). They were discussing early season adversity and Coach Neuheisel brought up his first year at UW. They lost the first two games that season to BYU and Air Force. Said they took a hard look at what they were trying to do on O and made some "drastic" changes even into the season. Started running some sort of veer tailored around Marques Tuiasosopo and went on to finish 7-5 (6-2) that year. Went 11-1 in 2000. Surely the circumstances (roster / era / etc.), but I thought that was interesting that they apparently made a significant change in direction that early in a season. Hopefully our coaches can come up with *something* like that.
 
I think that will be key to Coach Pat. He is at a point where he has to do something different, or there won't be any coming back for him.
 
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