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aeromech

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We are absolutely going to have to up our budget for coordinators. Thacker and Pat combined make less than most P5 coordinators. Of course, if our fans throw in the towel year one and stop contributing, we won't be able to do that.
The salary pool for Georgia Tech coach Geoff Collins’ 10 assistant coaches is 14% larger than it was for former coach Paul Johnson.

And the biggest portion of the pool is devoted to offensive-line coach Brent Key, who now is one of the higher-paid position coaches in the ACC (if not the highest) at $600,000.

The pool size likely will rank near the bottom among power-conference teams, using the 2018 USA Today report as a measure. Last year, of the 51 power-conference schools whose salary data was included, only eight (not including Tech) paid their assistants less than the $3.205 million that the Yellow Jackets assistants will draw this season. Tech, in fact, was at the bottom at 2.8 million. It would not be a surprise if some of those eight leapfrogged Tech this year.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/...ollins-coaching-staff/Tpog8bV9vJptZtIl4JISJP/
 

77GTFan

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I look at what Collins left at Temple and what PJ left here and they are night and day. I would take Temple's roster over ours and it's not even close. Temple was trash before Collins so he can rebuild pretty quickly. You have to pretty much be a PJ homer to not at least understand this transition was going to have us get much worse before it can get better. It will probably even take longer than his Temple rebuild. Therefore, anything and everything can and will happen this year, even losing to Citadel. Honestly, I thought we could just out athlete them and win but that implies we have decent P5 athletes, which we do not (on offense, I actually like some of our D players). Next year I won't be so forgiving but even next year it may still be really ugly. I truly think this is a 3+ year transition back to respectability. It's a rebuild unlike any other.
I agree with the need for patience. But, the idea that Temple was trash before Collins is an inaccuracy I hear repeated often. Temple was a nothing program until Al Golden. In his last two years the Owls won 9 and then 10 games. Addazio came in and had one good year and then a disaster. Matt Ruhle took over and things were really low. He did a great job. Before going to Baylor Temple won 10 games each in ‘15 and ‘16. Collins took over and the win totals dropped to 7 and then 8 games. He did well, but he did not rebuild at Temple.
 

Architorture23

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I look at what Collins left at Temple and what PJ left here and they are night and day. I would take Temple's roster over ours and it's not even close. Temple was trash before Collins so he can rebuild pretty quickly. You have to pretty much be a PJ homer to not at least understand this transition was going to have us get much worse before it can get better. It will probably even take longer than his Temple rebuild. Therefore, anything and everything can and will happen this year, even losing to Citadel. Honestly, I thought we could just out athlete them and win but that implies we have decent P5 athletes, which we do not (on offense, I actually like some of our D players). Next year I won't be so forgiving but even next year it may still be really ugly. I truly think this is a 3+ year transition back to respectability. It's a rebuild unlike any other.
Collins inherited Matt Rhule's 10-win Temple team.
 

BackstreetBuzz

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100%. The first 2 years is more on the old coach than the new coach, so good or bad, I’m with CGC at least till year 3.
 

GT98

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100%. The first 2 years is more on the old coach than the new coach, so good or bad, I’m with CGC at least till year 3.
Just because you post this tripe, doesn’t make it true.

I do think that CGC deserves until year 3 to see what he’s got. Gameday coaching needs to improve. And let’s hope that the early commits from recruiting sign.
 

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The salary pool for Georgia Tech coach Geoff Collins’ 10 assistant coaches is 14% larger than it was for former coach Paul Johnson.

And the biggest portion of the pool is devoted to offensive-line coach Brent Key, who now is one of the higher-paid position coaches in the ACC (if not the highest) at $600,000.

The pool size likely will rank near the bottom among power-conference teams, using the 2018 USA Today report as a measure. Last year, of the 51 power-conference schools whose salary data was included, only eight (not including Tech) paid their assistants less than the $3.205 million that the Yellow Jackets assistants will draw this season. Tech, in fact, was at the bottom at 2.8 million. It would not be a surprise if some of those eight leapfrogged Tech this year.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/...ollins-coaching-staff/Tpog8bV9vJptZtIl4JISJP/
Yep. We can afford to pay Thacker so little because he is young but if he has success with the defense, we will need to pony up quickly. Patenaude doesn't command a big salary because he is a journeyman and would probably still be a G5 coordinator if he hadn't followed Collins here. Point remains we will need to pay more if we want to follow the Dabo model. This is part of the reason I am not quite sure PJ was pushed out. Ideally, I think TStan would have wanted to have a little more $ in the bank.

I have gone off topic. To answer the OP, I am 100 percent on board and nothing that happens year one will change my mind
 

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"like no other" is a bit of an exaggeration. But transition can be a disaster
 

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Yep. We can afford to pay Thacker so little because he is young but if he has success with the defense, we will need to pony up quickly. Patenaude doesn't command a big salary because he is a journeyman and would probably still be a G5 coordinator if he hadn't followed Collins here. Point remains we will need to pay more if we want to follow the Dabo model. This is part of the reason I am not quite sure PJ was pushed out. Ideally, I think TStan would have wanted to have a little more $ in the bank.

I have gone off topic. To answer the OP, I am 100 percent on board and nothing that happens year one will change my mind
We definitely need a bigger war chest.
 

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Just because you post this tripe, doesn’t make it true.

I do think that CGC deserves until year 3 to see what he’s got. Gameday coaching needs to improve. And let’s hope that the early commits from recruiting sign.
PJ won with Gaileys players. Get over it.
 
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