Rate Geoff Collins First Season

GATechAE07 said:
Johnson left a roster that could win more than 2 games by running the 3O. Trying to run a "modern, NFL-style spread offense" with that same roster was a choice made by this staff. For all of the talk about "molding the offense to suit the current players' skill sets", it isn't happening. That's fine, but let's not pretend that Johnson should have built the roster to run a completely different scheme.
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Let's not pretend that Johnson built a top 25 team neither.
 
I have watched a lot of football games at BDS at HGF. If I had to list the five worst performances by the Jackets I have seen in person at The Flats two of those games have been this year against The Citadel and Virginia Tech. These are not the most disappointing games, but simply the worst performances. I have been watching games as a kid, student, and alum for about sixty years. Two of the worst five in one season is not good. Some other candidates for the worst five I have seen in person include the win over Gardner-Webb, the loss to Furman, FSU 49-3 in ‘96, Va Tech in ‘07, 39-3 to Clemson in ‘03, 41-7 to UGA in ‘81, 41-3 to UNC in 93, and 42-7 to Tennessee in ‘76. After further thought the two losses this year are probably the two worst I have seen in person.

This does not mean Collins cannot or will not turn it around. But, the performances in year 1 have been pretty bad and at times epically awful.
 
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77GTFan said:
I have watched a lot of football games at BDS at HGF. If I had to list the five worst performances by the Jackets I have seen in person at The Flats two of those games have been this year against The Citadel and Virginia Tech. These are not the most disappointing games, but simply the worst performances. I have been watching games as a kid, student, and alum for about sixty years. Two of the worst five in one season is not good. Some other candidates for the worst five I have seen in person include the win over Gardner-Webb, the loss to Furman, FSU 49-3 in ‘96, Va Tech in ‘07, 39-3 to Clemson in ‘03, 41-7 to UGA in ‘81, 41-3 to UNC in 93, and 42-7 to Tennessee in ‘76. After further thought the two losses this year are probably the two worst I have seen in person.

This does not mean Collins cannot or will not turn it around. But, the performances in year 1 have been pretty bad and at times epically awful.
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I’m not giving Collins a complete pass. But those performances have the same thing in common as the ones this year. They happened during seasons where the talent on the GT roster was at a near all time low. Poor recruiting plus injuries has rendered this team among the weakest in modern history.
 
Top 5 worst GT games I have ever seen:
2019 VT (45-0)
2019 Citadel (lost to FCS)
2012 MTSU (got blown out by G5)
2010 Kansas (lost to worst P5 team)
2005 VT (51-7)
2002 UGA (51-7)

2002 UGA and 2005 VT were both top 10 teams that won their respective conferences, so while that sucked to watch, it was no surprise we got blown out. 2019 VT almost lost to Furman and got absolutely destroyed by Duke, so that's probably the worst game I have ever seen.

Kansas was a terrible loss, but that was a Power 5 team only 3 years removed from a 12-1 season. MTSU was embarrassing, but they were 8-4 that season. Citadel was a ööööty FCS team that had just lost to Towson, running a variant of our old offense that our fanbase was already split about ditching.

So yeah. I've been watching since the Joe Ham years, and the worst 2 games I have ever seen both happened this year.
 
johncu said:
Top 5 worst GT games I have ever seen:
2019 VT (45-0)
2019 Citadel (lost to FCS)
2012 MTSU (got blown out by G5)
2010 Kansas (lost to worst P5 team)
2005 VT (51-7)
2002 UGA (51-7)

2002 UGA and 2005 VT were both top 10 teams that won their respective conferences, so while that sucked to watch, it was no surprise we got blown out. 2019 VT almost lost to Furman and got absolutely destroyed by Duke, so that's probably the worst game I have ever seen.

Kansas was a terrible loss, but that was a Power 5 team only 3 years removed from a 12-1 season. MTSU was embarrassing, but they were 8-4 that season. Citadel was a ööööty FCS team that had just lost to Towson, running a variant of our old offense that our fanbase was already split about ditching.

So yeah. I've been watching since the Joe Ham years, and the worst 2 games I have ever seen both happened this year.
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Well...this seems like an unproductive exercise.

Were any of the other examples of bad losses in the midst of as big of a transformation as we are undertaking this season? I don't need a response, because it's rhetorical. Can we move on to NC State already?
 
JoeCakeEater said:
Well...this seems like an unproductive exercise.

Were any of the other examples of bad losses in the midst of as big of a transformation as we are undertaking this season? I don't need a response, because it's rhetorical. Can we move on to NC State already?
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Well, I was responding to a thread about rating this season. It's an F for the aforementioned reasons.

Doesn't mean next season can't be a C, and the following one an A or B. But we're gonna have to figure some things out and improve going forward.
 
The worst loss I have seen is taking a top 10 ACC champion team with probably the best roster since 1990 (and the second best since Dodd) and losing to one of the worst UGA teams since Ray Goof at home.

The Kansas loss was the second worst. We had just won the ACC and went to the Orange Bowl. We had a Heisman candidate at QB. We were #15 in the nation and we lost to the 110th team in the nation.
 
If I were building a house and all I had to work with was a hammer and some screws, I wouldn't get a good product. It doesn't mean the screws are worthless nor is the hammer worthless. But the two together don't work well. Thus we have the 2019 GT football season.
 
JoeCakeEater said:
Agree with ibb. VT is much better now than they were back then.
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And we're not better than we were earlier in the season. That's precisely why we're upset.

Of course good coaches get teams to improve over the course of the year; CGC himself has mentioned that in several pressers. But we just played the worst game of the season – probably the worst game of GT football I've seen in my entire life, actually – in the tenth game of the season. That's pathetically bad, and has absolutely nothing to do with talent.
 
18in32 said:
And we're not better than we were earlier in the season. That's precisely why we're upset.

Of course good coaches get teams to improve over the course of the year; CGC himself has mentioned that in several pressers. But we just played the worst game of the season – probably the worst game of GT football I've seen in my entire life, actually – in the tenth game of the season. That's pathetically bad, and has absolutely nothing to do with talent.
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Improvement is never a straight line upward. There will be peaks and valleys. Saturday was a valley, but the 10 game trend has been upward. Also match ups come into play. We looked good versus UVA, but they have a weak D and out score people. YT has a good DL & OL, which attacked out two weakest points, thus domination.

As for not having bad games 10 games into the season, a couple of years ago the mutts were utterly dominated by Auburn. Sometimes crap happens.
 
knoxjacket said:
The worst loss I have seen is taking a top 10 ACC champion team with probably the best roster since 1990 (and the second best since Dodd) and losing to one of the worst UGA teams since Ray Goof at home.

The Kansas loss was the second worst. We had just won the ACC and went to the Orange Bowl. We had a Heisman candidate at QB. We were #15 in the nation and we lost to the 110th team in the nation.
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That doesn't really make sense. The UGA loss was worse because our team was good? Then the 1990 tie vs. UNC should be the worst game ever, because it came against a 6 win UNC team and kept us from being consensus national champions.
 
Graybeard Jacket said:
If I were building a house and all I had to work with was a hammer and some screws, I wouldn't get a good product. It doesn't mean the screws are worthless nor is the hammer worthless. But the two together don't work well. Thus we have the 2019 GT football season.
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Graybeard Jacket said:
Improvement is never a straight line upward. There will be peaks and valleys. Saturday was a valley, but the 10 game trend has been upward. Also match ups come into play. We looked good versus UVA, but they have a weak D and out score people. YT has a good DL & OL, which attacked out two weakest points, thus domination.

As for not having bad games 10 games into the season, a couple of years ago the mutts were utterly dominated by Auburn. Sometimes crap happens.
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Graybeard the Wise laying on that wisdom thick.
 
johncu said:
That doesn't really make sense. The UGA loss was worse because our team was good? Then the 1990 tie vs. UNC should be the worst game ever, because it came against a 6 win UNC team and kept us from being consensus national champions.
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UNC was in Chapel Hill, he probably didn't "see" it.
 
johncu said:
Top 5 worst GT games I have ever seen:
2019 VT (45-0)
2019 Citadel (lost to FCS)
2012 MTSU (got blown out by G5)
2010 Kansas (lost to worst P5 team)
2005 VT (51-7)
2002 UGA (51-7)
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Honorable mention to Duke in '03.
 
1990 Georgia Tech's National Championship Team had an awful home game in November against Virginia Tech. It was cold as heck, but at least we won 6-3.
 
I rate it as a good year for Comcast (the way I've been getting broadcasts online over the years) NOT to have a deal with the ACC Network ... :coffee2:
 
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