King, Wells and Hansen gone

Kickers don't get much love as athletes but I imagine you need a tremendous amount of mental toughness to be FG kicker. Wells didn't have it. No problem, he's a kid. Best of luck.
 
GoGATech said:
If you read any practice reports, he most definitely had the "yips" last year. He couldn't consistently hit the broad side of a barn, even in practice. You don't keep trotting a guy out there like that regardless of what he did the previous year. And like JJ said, if you were at any games last year, you would have seen in pre-game he hit a LOT of shanks.
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He was given ONE attempt during a game. That is BS. King literally couldn't hit the side of a barn, Walls had proven himself solid in game action. Call it like I see it, Collins is not a good football coach. He will lead us into 3 or more bowless seasons and we will be scrapping the ööööty spread
 
southendzoneBEE said:
He was given ONE attempt during a game. That is BS. King literally couldn't hit the side of a barn, Walls had proven himself solid in game action. Call it like I see it, Collins is not a good football coach. He will lead us into 3 or more bowless seasons and we will be scrapping the ööööty spread
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Dude, Collins sees Wells every day in practice. 1 kick in a game is irrelevant. Hell, 10 kicks in a game are irrelevant. 10,000 kicks in practice give the coaches a much better idea of what Wells has than anything we will EVER see. King was awful, so if he even competed with Wells in practice, much less beat him out, that says a lot about Wells. Both seem like good kids, they're just not D1 kickers.

As for the second part, we'll see. Way too early to judge on Collins. He's been fantastic with culture and recruiting, but our team still sucked. He's got time to turn it around.
 
johncu said:
Dude, Collins sees Wells every day in practice. 1 kick in a game is irrelevant. Hell, 10 kicks in a game are irrelevant. 10,000 kicks in practice give the coaches a much better idea of what Wells has than anything we will EVER see. King was awful, so if he even competed with Wells in practice, much less beat him out, that says a lot about Wells. Both seem like good kids, they're just not D1 kickers.

As for the second part, we'll see. Way too early to judge on Collins. He's been fantastic with culture and recruiting, but our team still sucked. He's got time to turn it around.
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You'll never convince me that Wells didn't deserve more than one game action field goal.

Never.
 
southendzoneBEE said:
He was given ONE attempt during a game. That is BS. King literally couldn't hit the side of a barn, Walls had proven himself solid in game action. Call it like I see it, Collins is not a good football coach. He will lead us into 3 or more bowless seasons and we will be scrapping the ööööty spread
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He may not be a good coach, but he damn sure is not stupid. Why are you keeping 2 kickers on scholarship who are 37%? If production level at a warehouse or retention level is 37% you are getting fired! Wells & king were bad in practice, pee game and left us with empty drives last season bc there was no confidence they could hit over 40.

Take that participation trophy mentality somewhere else
 
ibeeballin said:
He got an xtra point too and shanked it
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I think that was why he didn't get another try. XP are 100% mental. If you can't calm the nerves and knock that thing through then there is little that any coach can do to fix you.

Also, if Wells had confidence, I'm sure he could have tried to win the job.
 
southendzoneBEE said:
He was given ONE attempt during a game. That is BS. King literally couldn't hit the side of a barn, Walls had proven himself solid in game action. Call it like I see it, Collins is not a good football coach. He will lead us into 3 or more bowless seasons and we will be scrapping the ööööty spread
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LOL

Wells would even shank it on kickoffs last year. I wish he had returned to his 2018 form just as much as you. He didn’t. Doesn’t make Collins a bad football coach.
 
GoGATech said:
If you read any practice reports, he most definitely had the "yips" last year. He couldn't consistently hit the broad side of a barn, even in practice. You don't keep trotting a guy out there like that regardless of what he did the previous year. And like JJ said, if you were at any games last year, you would have seen in pre-game he hit a LOT of shanks.
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When the student section is cheering pre game successful field goals, you know you have problems.
 
southendzoneBEE said:
You'll never convince me that Wells didn't deserve more than one game action field goal.

Never.
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It's not the coaches job to convince us anything. It's his job to put the best guy out there. As bad as our kicking game was last year, if Wells seemed even half-ass competent in practice, CGC would've sent him out there. He didn't. That tells us all we need to know about Wells in practice, and it was widely reported that he was having major problems kicking. It's not like CGC has some personal vendetta against the kid or anything, hell he's the one that gave him the scholly last year so I would think he was probably pulling for Wells to succeed more than anyone.
 
GoGATech said:
It's not the coaches job to convince us anything. It's his job to put the best guy out there. As bad as our kicking game was last year, if Wells seemed even half-ass competent in practice, CGC would've sent him out there. He didn't. That tells us all we need to know about Wells in practice, and it was widely reported that he was having major problems kicking. It's not like CGC has some personal vendetta against the kid or anything, hell he's the one that gave him the scholly last year so I would think he was probably pulling for Wells to succeed more than anyone.
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You give him a chance to kick out of the slump, when the other guy literally can't hit anything. Making 1 or 2 game field goals could've helped his confidence. I would have shut up at 0/4 or so.
 
southendzoneBEE said:
You give him a chance to kick out of the slump, when the other guy literally can't hit anything. Making 1 or 2 game field goals could've helped his confidence. I would have shut up at 0/4 or so.
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You would’ve also said CGC is a bad coach and Patenaude is an idiot for trotting out an 0/3 kicker to even attempt the 4th missed kick

Just sit this one out
 
southendzoneBEE said:
You give him a chance to kick out of the slump, when the other guy literally can't hit anything. Making 1 or 2 game field goals could've helped his confidence. I would have shut up at 0/4 or so.
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I think people forget how the season played out...

Preseason reports were that both kickers were so-so and each would have decent days and bad days.
Game 1 - Clemson Wells was the starter. 2/2 XP
Game 2 - USF King was the starter. 2/2 XP, 0/1 FG on a 51 yard attempt.
Game 3 - Citadel Wells back as the starter. Missed the 1st XP badly, brought King in. King goes 1/1 XP, 1/2 FG. Made the FG to take it to overtime, but missed a 47 yarder (after Johnson took a sack) in OT.
Game 4 - Temple unfortunately we don't know who would've been kicking.
Game 5 - UNC King starts. 2/2 XP
Game 6 - Duke King starts. 2/2 XP, 1/1 FG
Game 7 - Miami King starts. 4/4 XP
Game 8 - Pitt King starts. 1/1 XP, 1/2 FG. Missed a 34 yarder.
Game 9 - Virginia Wells starts. 4/4 XP. 0/1 FG. Missed a 30 yarder.
Game 10 - Virginia tech again no kicks.
Game 11 - NC State King starts. 4/4 XP
Game 12 - UGAg King starts. 1/1 XP, 0/1 FG. Missed bad on a 27 yarder before half. May have swapped to Wells agian after that but who knows.

Point is, if Wells was obviously struggling in practice also, there was really no time to bring him in other than when we did. He started the season for us. King went next. He missed a FG and we went back to Wells next game. He misses an XP and back to King. Then King rolls off 4 games going 9/9 XP and 2/3 FG. So after that one miss, we went back to Wells and he goes 4/4 XP and misses a short one. Back to King, 5/5 XP against NC State and UGAg, but then the missed FG. May have brought Wells in after that again but who knows. We basically did swap them every time one started doing bad. The only time we didn't use him for a while, King was on a roll and Wells wasn't practicing good.
 
GoGATech said:
I think people forget how the season played out...

Preseason reports were that both kickers were so-so and each would have decent days and bad days.
Game 1 - Clemson Wells was the starter. 2/2 XP
Game 2 - USF King was the starter. 2/2 XP, 0/1 FG on a 51 yard attempt.
Game 3 - Citadel Wells back as the starter. Missed the 1st XP badly, brought King in. King goes 1/1 XP, 1/2 FG. Made the FG to take it to overtime, but missed a 47 yarder (after Johnson took a sack) in OT.
Game 4 - Temple unfortunately we don't know who would've been kicking.
Game 5 - UNC King starts. 2/2 XP
Game 6 - Duke King starts. 2/2 XP, 1/1 FG
Game 7 - Miami King starts. 4/4 XP
Game 8 - Pitt King starts. 1/1 XP, 1/2 FG. Missed a 34 yarder.
Game 9 - Virginia Wells starts. 4/4 XP. 0/1 FG. Missed a 30 yarder.
Game 10 - Virginia tech again no kicks.
Game 11 - NC State King starts. 4/4 XP
Game 12 - UGAg King starts. 1/1 XP, 0/1 FG. Missed bad on a 27 yarder before half. May have swapped to Wells agian after that but who knows.

Point is, if Wells was obviously struggling in practice also, there was really no time to bring him in other than when we did. He started the season for us. King went next. He missed a FG and we went back to Wells next game. He misses an XP and back to King. Then King rolls off 4 games going 9/9 XP and 2/3 FG. So after that one miss, we went back to Wells and he goes 4/4 XP and misses a short one. Back to King, 5/5 XP against NC State and UGAg, but then the missed FG. May have brought Wells in after that again but who knows. We basically did swap them every time one started doing bad. The only time we didn't use him for a while, King was on a roll and Wells wasn't practicing good.
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So Wells missed one XP and we sat him half the season. Point is, the guy who went perfect last s(2 seasons) got 1 FG attempt in lieu of a guy who went 3/7.
 
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