The prospect of an awful 2011 season

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6 wins is the worst case scenario for me:

Western Carolina, MTSU, Kansas, and Duke as wins, then splitting UNC, NCState, Maryland, Virginia.

Best case is probably 9 wins. So, most likely we'll be somewhere in the middle.

If we are below 0.500 with this schedule, we've got some real problems.
 

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it was against SC State...see 7:45 mark
Thanks.

There was a play or penalty Kevin was involved in last year that made me go "wtf?". Don't remember what it was now. May just have been a block in the back penalty.

Plenty of WRs last year had "wtf?" moments though.
 

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As long as we beat Georgia, I don't give two rat öööös about the other games.
 

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Thanks.

There was a play or penalty Kevin was involved in last year that made me go "wtf?". Don't remember what it was now. May just have been a block in the back penalty.

Plenty of WRs last year had "wtf?" moments though.
and A-backs out of the backfield too. Lots of drops and missed blocks all around...
 

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and A-backs out of the backfield too. Lots of drops and missed blocks all around...
Don't get me started on the ABs. I actually blame most of the losses on their fumbling and inability to catch pitched balls that hit their hands.
 

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As long as we beat Georgia, I don't give two rat öööös about the other games.
Can you imagine being 0-11 then beating U(sic)GA to prevent a winless season? i don't even know how I'd feel about that.

no, i do. I'd laugh at U(sic)GA but still be upset that our team went 1-11.
 

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I'll be able to eat good tailgate food and drink regardless of what happens. I'll be ok!
cool weather, grilled venison tenderloins, bourbon

yes, please.

and the team will be fine. Like others, I think 7 wins is a worst case scenario.
 

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I think there's a real possibility we could be worse than last year and still end up with 7 or 8 wins. Most of the tough games at home (UNC, VT, Clemson, UGA) and several teams replacing long-term starters at QB and other positions (UNC-Yates, NCST-Wilson, Clemson-Parker, VT-Taylor). I know some of these guys weren't world-beaters, but it's always tough to replace a multi-year starter at QB.
 

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IMO and if I remember correctly, we had two retarded special teams plays that ultimately killed us. One being a roughing the kicker penalty on what would have been an 3-and-out for the defense. Orwin also had a bad fumble. There's two losses of possession right there.

If anything Joshua and Stephen kept us in the game with their 40 yard touchdown pass to get it to a 3 point game. Yes, that's right lady and gentlemen, touchdown pass.

So while I agree Nesbitt wasn't exactly a spectacular passer, a lot of incomplete passes last season were on the WRs. I especially loved the one where a pass bounced off of Kevin Cone's chest into the air for an interception. I forgot which game it was.
Imo, we wouldn't have been down to Kansas (and the game wouldn't have been close) if Nesbitt did better than 15 carries for 33 yards. Even taking away the one sack, Nesbitt was 14 carries for 38 yards (sub 3 average). Everyone else: Allen (8.1 avg), Peeples (9.2 avg), Roddy (5.4 avg), Orwin (7.4 avg), Wright (7.0 avg). Not to mention Nesbitt's 5-15 passing. So there was a single touchdown pass in there once we were already down more than one possession to KANSAS (a team that lost 4 of the next 5 games by an average score of 47.5 -10). That doesn't excuse the rest of Nesbitt's passing game - 4-14 for 76 yards and no TDs - particularly against a team like Kansas that gave up 65+% passing and ~225 yards per game the whole season.

I'll agree with you that a lot of incomplete passes were due to things beyond Nesbitt's control BUT had Nesbitt qualified, his

105.4 rating would have been 112th in the NCAA, ahead of only the QBs from Buffalo, MTSU, UConn, Akron, and Vanderbilt

37.1% completion rating would have been 117th (i.e. dead last) in the NCAA by OVER TEN percent. Larry Smith (Vandy) was the worst at 47.4%. In fact, Tevin Washington - who nobody has ever accused of being a great passer - completed almost 4% more of his passes than Nesbitt.
 

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Remember Nesbitt, Dwyer, D. Thomas, M. Burnett, D. Morgan, D. Richard, Michael Johnson, Vance Walker?

Let's keep perspective.
I think he meant "prospects" in the same sense of the word that I used in my thread title. I could be wrong.
 

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I think he meant "prospects" in the same sense of the word that I used in my thread title. I could be wrong.
The prospects were unknown as we had no idea what the offense would look like...we knew the defense was STACKED though. But I knew Nesbitt, Thomas and especially Dwyer would do well. Don't know anybody other than maybe Orwin that I can say that for this year.

Dang, 32% (7/22) of our starting lineup would go on to the NFL. That is ridiculous!
 

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Remember Nesbitt, Dwyer, D. Thomas, M. Burnett, D. Morgan, D. Richard, Michael Johnson, Vance Walker?

Let's keep perspective.
What? Are U saying Washington, Lyons, Hill, Isaiah Johnson, Peters, Walls, Barnes & Cross aren't as good? Seriously, is that what you're saying?
 

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Kansas and Duke are not certain wins. But there is no one on the schedule that you can say unequivocally are certain loses either. It's football.
 

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There are lots of variables that can turn a good season into a bad one, and vice versa. Injuries, turnovers, and funny bounces the ball makes are often the difference in Ws and Ls. I think in 2009 we had some breaks go our way, but in 2010, almost everything that could go wrong, did. I'm expecting an improvement from last year, because the odds fairies can't strike us that hard two years in a row.
 

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Can you imagine being 0-11 then beating U(sic)GA to prevent a winless season? i don't even know how I'd feel about that.

no, i do. I'd laugh at U(sic)GA but still be upset that our team went 1-11.
Eleven preseason games, one that counts. Beating Georgia is all that matters.
 
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