1st half vs. 2nd half

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Clifflives10

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Why does this team show promise in the 1st half and then always comes out flat in the 2nd half? I remember when CPJ held a lead at half, he went something like 35-0.
Is Key not making adjustments? Is the conditioning that abysmal this year? What am I not seeing? I'm not referring to only the offense. I'm looking at the defense too. Look at the numbers below. This has cost us and will cost us more games.

GT: 1st: 0
2nd: 28
3rd: 0
4th: 6
Total: 34

Lou: 1st: 6
2nd: 7
3rd: 10
4th: 16
Total: 39

1st PF/PA = 28/13
2nd PF/PA = 6/26
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GT:
1st: 14
2nd: 14
3rd: 17
4th: 3
Total:

SC State:
1st: 0
2nd: 6
3rd: 7
4th: 0
Total: 39

1st PF/PA = 28/6
2nd PF/PA = 20/7
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GT:
1st: 0
2nd: 3
3rd: 7
4th: 13
Total: 23

Ole Miss:
1st: 10
2nd: 0
3rd: 14
4th: 24
Total: 48

1st PF/PA = 3/10
2nd PF/PA = 20/38
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I don't want to hang on moral victories, but Ole Miss under Lane Kiffin is known for having some great offense. I miss the old days of PJ coached teams reliably making adjustments and dominating the 2nd half as well, but all I'm saying is there aren't enough data points in the season yet to make a call on whether there is a real problem or not.

As PJ said, it's never as good or as bad as it seems. Gotta let the season play out a bit more to know where to point your anger.
 
We lack talent and we lack depth. This isn't hard to understand.

But Ole Miss is probably the 2nd or 3rd best team we are going to play this year. We had a slim chance of winning that game and if that was the game we were hanging our hopes on, then we were destined to be disappointed.
 
Ole Miss looks something worse than it actually was. One of the TDs was due to an extremely short field because of the fake punt. Then another due to an absolute lack of pride by the defense. A 20/24 half isn’t great, but it isn’t horrible.
 
WracerX said:
Ole Miss looks something worse than it actually was. One of the TDs was due to an extremely short field because of the fake punt. Then another due to an absolute lack of pride by the defense. A 20/24 half isn’t great, but it isn’t horrible.
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Another was on the long QB run on a broken defensive set by us. Another score (FG, IIRC) was after the blocked FG attempt. Our mistakes helped them to a lot of points.
 
The numbers don’t tell the story at all. Three completely different scenarios:

Louisville: had a good lead going into the second half. Play calling went into preserve the lead mode. Backfired when UL started scoring at will. That loss is ultimately in play calling and the D not being able to get a stop.

SC State: Came out hot in the third quarter. Played mostly reserves in the fourth. Opposite of what you claim.

Ole Miss: Scored almost all of our points in the second half. Holding penalty on the fake punt changed the game. One Miss scored on fluke plays against a gassed defense when they were just trying to run out the clock.
 
Architorture23 said:
We lack talent and we lack depth. This isn't hard to understand.
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Lack of talent does not explain better first half performance vs second. depth sure. seems like other teams are just making better adjustments than us. disappointing if conditioning is culprit since that is something 100% in our control.
i did notice king get up limping in second half of Louisville game after a long run. seemed like a tight hamstring.
 
Offensively, you're overthinking it. V Cards, we literally decided to nurse the lead thinking the game was over. 2nd half v Ole Miss is the opposite of your point.

Defensively, its 2 things: half-time adjustments by the other guy and we don't have the horses to punch over our weight class for 4 qtrs. We just don't and nothing is going to change unless some guys not on the 2-deep step up fast. And where are all the portal studs I heard about gonna shore up our attrition along the line? Did I make that up or were expectations raised last spring?
 
Yeah, it seems Kiffin had a couple of plays ready that he knew would work. Held them until needed.
 
Clifflives10 said:
Why does this team show promise in the 1st half and then always comes out flat in the 2nd half?
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No adjustments Is it Key? no but he is the head coach it should be on the coordinators to make adjustments at half and during the game.
 
00Burdell said:
Offensively, you're overthinking it. V Cards, we literally decided to nurse the lead thinking the game was over. 2nd half v Ole Miss is the opposite of your point.

Defensively, its 2 things: half-time adjustments by the other guy and we don't have the horses to punch over our weight class for 4 qtrs. We just don't and nothing is going to change unless some guys not on the 2-deep step up fast. And where are all the portal studs I heard about gonna shore up our attrition along the line? Did I make that up or were expectations raised last spring?
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I don't think it's opposite. It's the same trend when you consider the defense.

Put it this way...
Our margins are +30 (pts scored - points against) in the first half and -25 (pts scored - points against) in the 2nd half through the 3 games this year. This is a obvious, glaring problem.
 
Maybe Louisville and Ole Miss are pretty good? Both top 10 (or right around there) in total offense.

Maybe if we score that early touchdown against Ole Miss on 4th and goal the game breaks different?

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fatmike91 said:
Maybe Louisville and Ole Miss are pretty good? Both top 10 (or right around there) in total offense.

Maybe if we score that early touchdown against Ole Miss on 4th and goal the game breaks different?

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We have no depth at D and our offense is not good enough to win a shootout but the score definitely could have been closer
 
WracerX said:
Ole Miss looks something worse than it actually was. One of the TDs was due to an extremely short field because of the fake punt. Then another due to an absolute lack of pride by the defense. A 20/24 half isn’t great, but it isn’t horrible.
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Ole Miss - seven second half possessions. Five TDs. One FG.
Abysmal.
But let's not absolve the offense so quickly, either.
Down 10-3 at the half and we get the ball to start and go 8 yards in six plays.
Get it back and end with the fake punt debacle (refs f'd us and we know it and they know it) after going all of 3 yards in three plays. They scored right after that and it was 24-3.
Then, once we finally start showing signs of getting back into it, down 24-17, we go three and out and four and out.
So that's four possessions, 17 plays, no points, one first down, 23 yards of total offense, at critical junctures of the second half.
When Ole Miss took advantage of the last four and out possession, the fat lady was singing.
 
The offense has been better and is giving us a chance. But it didn't also didn't keep the mo going in the second half against the Cards and that let them back into it.
Then it wakes up late and decides to make things interesting again.
Its biggest problem now is we absolutely cannot miss a turn on offense with a defense that is this bad. And that's a whole lot of pressure to put on the offense.
 
We haven’t made halftime adjustments since Johnson. If you listened to Kiffen’s post game press conference he talked about the adjustments they made about 5 different times. Say what you want about Kiffen, but he has this coaching stuff down. He sounded a lot like Johnson in that when he’d be asked a silly question he would answer with a great football answer that showed his condescension to the reporter. For example- coach, why were you only up 10 at halftime and then were able to score more in the 2nd half. His answer was basically, dude, we had to see how they were playing us on defense and once we saw the same scheme we saw last year (and he even said - because their staff remained in place) we simply switched to a zone read and altered the routes and it worked. He knows a lot of football and gave GT a bunch of credit on the offensive side. It almost sounded like he was sending a message to Faulkner to be ready when he takes over in Tuscaloosa.
 
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