2nd half anallysis of game.

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BarrelORum

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Dwyer does not need to be returning kicks anymore in my opinion. One he is too valuable and two he lacks the wiggle to take it to the house.

One 1st down Nesbitt makes the right read and carries the ball himself for 6 yards. 2nd down give to Dwyer for a 1st. Right read. Howard and Brown both terribly miss their blocks which were right in front of them and Dwyer still picks up yardage. Voss fell down 4 feet past the line of scrimmage barely making contact with anyone. Amazing we got called for an illegal block. But that was Lucas Cox who dove at the defenders legs.

Next play: Well designed play and good run by Nesbitt to pick up 9 yards. Next playNesbitt again calls his own number correctly and gets to the within one yard of the 1st down driving the linebacker backwards. He's a bad ass. Don't expect to see Jaybo doing that. Announcers have a Josh Nesbitt love fest over the play. On 3rd and 2, Gardner doesn't seal his man off and Cox makes a poor attempt as he missed his block badly and Nesbitt had to scramble and pick up a first down by his own will and pure talent. Voss and Smith are again the culprits of not blocking on a pass play and Nesbitt throws the ball downfield in a hurry over the head of Demaryious thomas. Next play Voss allows his man to turn and hit Dwyer who fumbles the ball. Smith and/or Gardner missed an assignment block, its hard to tell which one as they both looked lost.

Clemson gets the TD off of Jahi's injury. Without the injury this pass is incomplete. I'm surprised Jahi didn't try to stay in as the ball was in the air when he pulled up limp.

1st down, Voss misses his block badly and ends up on the ground. This play is designed for Voss to make inital contact with the DT and then fire off to the LB as Howard engages the DT. As soon as Voss fell down this play was toast as the LB ate up Nesbitt. Wrong read by Nesbitt gives it to Dwyer and the right side of the line doesn't make their blocks. Earls drops a pass on a perfectly executed play by everyone.

Roughing the kicker. Bad call. 1st down for GT.

Holy cow, we all block perfectly to allow for a big Dwyer gain up the middle for 18 yards. If Gardner stays on the safety, Dwyer scores a TD on this play.
Nesbitt up the middle for 8 yards on the quick keeper. I like this play a lot. Next play on 2nd and short AJ Smith goes high, misses his block and tries to hold the defender who gets Dwyer for a one yard gain and no first down anyway. Good blocking on the pass play and Nesbitt overthrows Thomas. Dwyer and Gardner both get beat badly as Nesbitt throws incomplete.

On the next series AT Barnes shows his strength by practically throwing Davis to the ground. Morgan sheds his blocker and tackles Davis for a loss. Morgan is a bad ass. Clemson calls their best series of passes yet and executes perfectly to score the TD and goes up 17-14.

The entire line missed their blocks on the 1st and 10 after the Clemson score. Seriously, not one of them got their man. Voss and Gilbert (who is playing LG for AJ Smith) miss their block badly and Dwyer gets stuffed. Nesbitt may have missed his read on this play but its hard to tell. On the next play our tackles get abused particurly Gardner but Nesbitt manages to get the ball to Thomas just short of the 1st down.

Clemson 3 and out. Defense bows their necks.

We get good field position and a great completion to Thomas but Howard is flagged for holding because he gets beat badly on the play. On the nect play on 2nd and 20, the entire oline misses their blocks and the entire Clemson team is in our backfield. Seriously, I am not making this up. Next play is executed perfectly... problem is Thomas drops the TD pass.

After two stops, Darryl Richard shows his athleticism and strength by dragging down Davis on the screen pass from behind by the back of his jersey and keeps them from gaining a 1st down.

After the punt, Dwyer up the middle for 4. Nicely done when the lanes were clogged. Next play is a prime example of our problems: Voss doesn't hold his block, but AJ Smith completely tries to arm block a guy and it looks worse in slow motion allowing his guy right through on the option left call. Cord Howard isn't fast enough on the pull and Nesbitt in an attempt to wait for the blocks gets bottled up for a loss. On 3rd and 14 Nesbitt throws an absolute gem of a pass on the rollout to Thomas who makes the 1st down catch.

Nexy play Nesbitt makes a bad read and hands it to Dwyer when he should have kept it. Handoff to Dwyer for a tough 9 yard gain. Good execution. Nesbitt on the sneak for the 1st down. This play got us at least 4 yards each time this game. AJ Smith hurt on the play.

Howard and Voss cannot keep their feet and therefore trip up Dwyer on the right read by Nesbitt up the gut. Voss, Gilbert and on this play Gardner doesn't seal his man and all three misses caused for a negative yard run by Nesbitt. Oh did I say that Dwyer missed his block up the middle too? On 3rd and 6 we get the Winning TD on a beautifully executed hitch and go.
 
Well they won't let me correct my misspelling of analysis. Anyway, we got OLine problems and our main culprits are Voss and AJ Smith.

Watching this game I'm left wondering what is so different about our blocking schemes? Its run blocking at its finest. The stuff we are doing when it works is nothing different than any other offense with one exception, the tackle has to sweep by the end and take out the MLB. for those of you who have said the offensive line scheme is so new. Hate to tell you they teach this kind of play in a lot of run oriented offenses that have nothing to do with the option.

considering our problems stem from the middle of the line and not the tackles, I'd say we got issues that aren;t relevant to the style of football we play.
 
right on-

I agree, I don't think that Dwyer needs to be returning kicks, he is way to valuable...
 
BarrelORum said:
Dwyer does not need to be returning kicks anymore in my opinion. One he is too valuable and two he lacks the wiggle to take it to the house.
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Could not agree any more!

Please do not allow Dwyer to return kicks in the future!!
 
It appears that our offense is performing at a 60% efficiency rate. And we are still 6-1. Can't wait for it to run at 100%...
 
Great analysis, BOR. I think what we should take away from this is that when everyone does their part, the option will allow for some big gains.
 
I was glad PJ made the adjustment to call the QB sneak several times. Clemson's DTs were shooting the gap and ignoring Josh. This was obvious early on and I was hoping to see it called to slow the penetration down.
 
Our OLine is struggling true, but its not lack of talent. I think the difference in performance, particularly the number of whiffs we are seeing is due to wider splits. What you have to remember is that Our guys have probably played their entire careers with half a yard splits. Now they are a yard or more. That half a yard is what seems to be causing most of the problem in my eyes.


Re watching games, particularly clemson, VT and BC it appears that the DL are crashing the CG gap at the snap. The problem is two fold. We are either too slow off the snap to cut it off, or we are too high and the block is ineffective. We need to be quicker and lower off of the snap. It takes all 5 OL working in sync for the scheme to work, and right now we are not there.

We have to remeber that this is enitrely new for them, just like its new for the backfield, and give them time to grow and learn. Hopefully the we can stop getting hurt.
 
Sonsir said:
What you have to remember is that Our guys have probably played their entire careers with half a yard splits. Now they are a yard or more. That half a yard is what seems to be causing most of the problem in my eyes.
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This is a very good point and one that is easily overlooked, including me. When you said this it really hit home having just watched the recorded game and able to see it in slow mo. This is definitely causing us major problems.
 
Is the wider split causing trouble because they have to go further to make contact or because of what the DL does when they see those splits? Or both?
 
ncjacket said:
Is the wider split causing trouble because they have to go further to make contact or because of what the DL does when they see those splits? Or both?
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More of the first, but I think defenses have geared up to take advantage of the split. What I have noticed is that most of the penetration is coming from the backside. THe backside DT is coming right off of the Center's butt and the backside OG isn't getting there in time or is too high and doesn't get any push, which stalls the whole play.

This is why everyone moving together is important, and we're not there consistently enough yet.
 
ncjacket said:
Is the wider split causing trouble because they have to go further to make contact or because of what the DL does when they see those splits? Or both?
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From watching the video replay of the Clemson game, I can tell you that Smith's problems come from the DT being in the hole before he can block him. This causes Smith to be making contact with the side of the defender not the front of him and when he does make contact he's up high because he hasn't had the chance to get low.

For Voss I don't know what the problem is. He doesn't seem to be able to stay on his feet. He's typically firing out well but utterly misses the defender. On a couple of occasions it was evident that Voss is supposed to hit the DT along with one of the guards, then fire off to block the linebacker. He had big problems with this. He seemed to get stuck on the DT and either came late to block the LB or never got there at all.

As far as pulling guards go, both Howard and Smith had some issues. But its hard to tell how bad we are at pulling considering that half the time when Howard pulled, Smith's guy got past him and ended up causing a bottle neck in the backfield because Howard couldn't block his intended man and instead had to hit the DT right behind the center.

Bottom line is our major problems are with the play of the interior lineman. What they do is no different than most blocking schemes you will see in any run oriented offense. The only problem they could have is with the splits.
 
So it's a recruiting issue.

Here's this year's OL commits so far: (all data according to Scout)

Jay Finch OG 6-4/265/4.73
Will Jackson OG 6-4/280/5.10
Raymond Beno OG 6-2/280

Here's our prospects:

Steve Witmer C 6-1/303/5.62 (no offer)
Cliff Jones OG 6-3.5/296/5.78 (no offer)
Matt Crisafi OG 6-3.5/304/5.66 (high interest no offer)
Hunter Poole OG 6-5/315/5.23 (no offer)

Matter of fact, Paul Johnson has stated he wants to take 5 OLs this year, but I can't find in the Scout database where we've offered any who haven't already committed.

Alarming? Just poor info by Scout? May I assume/hope that we've got offers out for at least 2 or 3 more OLs?

FWIW, these are the OLs we recruited last year:

Omeregie Uzzi ****
Phil Smith ***
TJ Barnes ***
Nick McRae ***
 
There's a lot of time between now and signing day...I think(and hope) that PJ is focusing more on winning every Saturday than who is going to play on our OL next year.
 
I think(and hope) that PJ is focusing more on winning every Saturday than who is going to play on our OL next year.
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Great quote from George O'Leary:

"Recruiting is like shaving. You have to do it every day or you look like a bum."
 
Here's this year's OL commits so far: (all data according to Scout)

Jay Finch OG 6-4/265/4.73
Will Jackson OG 6-4/280/5.10
Raymond Beno OG 6-2/280




This Will Jackson kid is the real deal, imo. Anyone seen his videos yet? There's a really good one on Rivals.

Usually, OLinemen videos are BOOOOOORIIIINNNNGGGG.

This one isn't.
 
Barnes is a DT. He's huge and PJ has already stated he will be on the DL. He apparently is good enough to play a lot this year but since we are loaded at DT they redshirted him.
 
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