A-11 Offense

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ramblinwreck24

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This is a new offense that a couple of high school coaches in California came up with and it turned their program around. Now college coaches are starting to pick up on it and a couple actually used it some last year. Anyone think we may see this offense on any ACC teams in the coming years.

http://a11offense.com/
 
7 defenders in the box would make this very difficult, imho.

Reminds me of the pole-cat offense Mississippi Valley State used to run. Of course, they had Jerry Rice to bail them out on every play.
 
Been reading up on it and the teams they were able to upset tried to play the conventional 7 in the box stuff. Very interesting, caught my eye the other day and being a coach ive been reading up on it.
 
It makes man defense impossible, essentially, because you never know who their eligible receivers are going to be until after they hike the ball.

I'd defend it with a 3-2-6, with 2 LBs as QB spies and 6 DBs in 4 shallow, 2 deep zone.
 
Your 3-2-6 is okay, but I'd put linebackers out on the edge to take away a bull rush quick out intended to bowl over small DB's. So it'd really be a 3-4 defense with the linebackers out wide. But I don't know anything.
 
Any offense will work with the good balance, good play calling, and talent. That is why I'm excited about our chances with CPJ.
 
Interesting, and I bet we see it used as a trick/gimmick play some in the future, but with the speed of DEs at the college level I think theres a lot higher risk of it not working.

For quick slants though, it might be a very effective formation.
 
watching the footage you see the pros and cons. The "spread" formations will work well between the 20's but then close to the goal line you will have difficulty scoring.

Remember when woody danztler ran all over us on that QB option. If you have an athletic QB you can reek havoc however eventually you will drop some games to teams w/ solid running games.

You need some type of running game (besides QB) to win consistently IMO
 
law_bee said:
watching the footage you see the pros and cons. The "spread" formations will work well between the 20's but then close to the goal line you will have difficulty scoring.

Remember when woody danztler ran all over us on that QB option. If you have an athletic QB you can reek havoc however eventually you will drop some games to teams w/ solid running games.

You need some type of running game (besides QB) to win consistently IMO
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Thats why I think we will see a team or two pick this offense up in non BCS conferences because it can turn a horrible team into a bowl team. Still, it probably wouldnt win any championships.
 
I heard it was illegal in college. Something about an extra paragraph to the 'eligible receiver' rules for NCAA play.

Anyone know for sure?
 
Seems like there are certain plays that cant be run because of NCAA rules but for the life of me I cant find it. I have seen some stuff on schools that are considering adopting it as their base offense, San Jose St is the only one that comes to mind at the moment.
 
A quote from the link mentioned says " In the NCAA this offense would not be legal because there is added language in the (formation) rule that says 'it must be obvious that a kick may be attempted." This whole offense has something to do with being a kicking (punting) formation. QB (punter) has to be at least seven yards deep. Also traditional numbering requirements are waived so all players have "pass catching" numbers. I guess in high school your punt team could be made up of RB's, DB's, and WR's so they could come in and line up as linemen without having to change jersey's to the 50's, 60's, 70's.
 
The eligible receivers will be the two at the ends of the line of scrimmage (there must be 7 men within a yard of the LOS) and everyone else, who will be technically backs. Shifting presnap would be the confusion. A lineman and back can each take a step in the opposite direction (the back steps up and the lineman steps back) and they now reverse roles.

I think a 3-something-something would be a good defense but it would seem easier almost to play a mantoman much like basketball. With a little film you can find out who their go to guys are and put a "rover" type on them and linebackers on the bigger-slower guys. Could do a end- nose - end D line (the ends have to be agile MJ types). There's a MLB behind the nose and an LB out in each pair of 3's on the biggest guy along with 2 DBs on each side. Then theres a free safety reading the ball. Technically thats a 3-3-5.

This is kind of like football without traditional linemen though. To defend it you have to go with smaller/faster players.
 
Just some california folks trying to take the fat boys out of football. No love.
 
I'd sure like to see MJ coming off the edge against that.
 
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