A great post from CCJkt on the Hive:

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It's about CG and the transition from last year to this year. In particular, it talks about last year's results and the changes we've had to endure. Here's the link:
Cold Hard Facts

I think he's right on the money. Chan needs 3 years of our patience. It's crazy to can a guy in his first year...just crazy. Some people have advocated making the judgment in the 2nd year. I think that's still a little early because the new coach needs to recruit more of "his" players. If by the third year, you don't see some positive results, I think it's time to move on. By then, all new systems should be installed and most of the team should be on the same page with the coach.

Tech has always been a patient fan base...maybe too patient. But now in the day of internet boards, I see signs that we've been infected with impatience by some. The bottom line is that some coaches make improvements immediately (Spurrier, Bob Stoops). Some don't make improvements until later (Beamer, Bobby Ross, Gene Stallings at Bama). Some never make improvements (Lewis, Curry, Ray Goff, etc). I think we owe it to Chan and this staff to give them time to show us what they can do.

I'm not a blind loyalist either. I've been disappointed in some of Chan's game-time decisions. I've been disappointed in our offensive game plans. I've been disappointed in our 2nd half defense at Maryland. But I don't see how a fan can go from diappointment to "let's run him out of town" so quickly. It's crazy and it won't happen.

This staff has been saddled with a new QB and tons of injuries. I don't think it's fair to lay a final judgment on them just yet.

Right now, they deserve our support.
 
I think it depends...

If (and I think this is highly probably) we lose the rest of the games this season, AND we lose them all like the second half of the UMD game, I think that would be a BAD sign for the future - I'll just put it that way
 
Anyone that watched TECH lose to Maryland or Wake would have observed the difference in two well coached teams versus our pathetically coached team.

Maryland stomped us with a less talented team. Wake ran the ball down our throats with a less talented team.

Why did Maryland and Wake beat us with less talent???....because of quality, experienced, competent coaching. Period.

Let's face it....we have one of the worst Divsion 1 college football coaching staffs in history. And by the time they learn how to coach, if they ever do, this program will have been run completely into the ground. And it is happening in record time.

I thought (and posted) from day one that I thought this coaching hire was a terrible mistake. But even I didn't realize just how terrible. Is incredible...and very sad.

See you at homecoming.
Go Jackets.
 
I guess part of the difference is that I don't agree MD has a less talented team. They are bigger and certainly looked faster.

Wake, in terms of overall athletic ability is not as strong as Tech, but they do take advantage of what they have. And part of that is a big, talented offensive line.

They are both well coached teams. And right now their staffs are working together better than ours is. I can understand concerns about our staff, but when you state that they are "one of the worst Division I college football staffs in history" you lose any credibility with me. First of all they have only coached 7 games, you (or me for that matter) don't have the expertise to make statements like that. Unless you have some deep insight into the Xs anc Os of football which you have never made anyone aware of you are just another fan.
 
Why did Maryland and Wake beat us with less talent???....because of quality, experienced, competent coaching. Period.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I agree our coaching staff was outdone in these games, but I strongly disagree with the period. We were missing very signigicant players in both games, in fact, I really don't think our players on the field were more talented than Maryland's, and maybe not Wake. Our second and third line players are NOT amoung the best in the ACC.

Remember, good players make for good coaches. You cannot credibily say that coaching is the ONLY reason for those loses. Yes, it is Coach Chan's responsibility, but he cannot prevent injuries.
 
Originally posted by TeamBuzz:
They are struggling this year, but I've said it before we missed out on a good young coach and recruitor and Braine NEVER picked up the phone. (Braine is a another story altogether)

Mike Kruczek of UCF. Done a good job down here and is a great player developer ie: Culpepper

Maybe he wasn't the one for the job, but he didn't even get a call. The media and school officials down here couldn't believe Braine didn't call him.

I wasn't thrilled about any of Braine's choices to be honest. Maybe working for Braine isn't as popular as the media makes it out to be.

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Kruczek was looked into and interviewed. Some things in his past did not sit well w/the powers that be. Kruczek also benefits by getting the occasional blue chipper like a Culpepper that could not meet the entrance requirements of FSU, UF or Miami. Think that he could get players into GT? I don't.
 
[qb][/QUOTE]Kinda like how Wake and Virginia beat us in 1999, and how NC State beat us in 2000, and how (take your pick) Virigina, Maryland, and Clemson beat us in 2001? With lesser talent???.... because of quality, experienced, competent coaching. Period.
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The issue is not about losing per-say, but HOW we are losing.....
 
Patience? Let's revisit that issue of patience in the fourth quarter of the Duke game when our program has descended into the depths of where it was 7-8 years ago.

Patience? I absolutley HATE Georgia. But this is one year where I'm getting totally fed up with people not committing to something special. If they run 60 on us, so be it. It's our job to stop them and we don't appear to want to do that.

The facts are this: Gailey, for all of his years in football, assembled a third rate staff. Castoffs from mediocre programs. Contrast that to Friedgen's approach at Maryland. He further deterioted our chemistry by laxing on discipline. The mug shots on tv remind me of Oregan State, San Diego St. vs. our tradition of clean, cut, intelligent, class kids. Thirdly, we have lost games not because of talent but because of lack of effort (witness 2nd half vs. Maryland) and some of the most idiotic play calling by O'Brien I've ever witnessed (hey, I wonder if we are gonna run qb draw when Bilbo gets his six plays per game???)

By the way, did Wake Forest get reimbursed for that coaching clinic they put on?

Break it out, and someone please tell me - special teams, conditioning, offense, defense, discipline (12 men on the field, delay of game, center snapping the ball on Suggs ankle during a game winning drive), is there ONE area that is better than it was last year??? or one area that has improved since the beginning of the year??

Thats right, you be patient all the way down to Lewis era. When you wake up, we will eventually turn to someone we should have to begin with to try commence with another O'leary type rebuild which will take another 5-6 years. That guy really will need some time.
 
Originally posted by beeware:

See you at homecoming.
Go Jackets.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">beeware .. please .. please .. tell me where you will be on homecoming.
 
Your point is well taken about waiting to make a change. I firmly believe that the reason for the dissention among Tech fans goes back to the fact that there were several much more qualified coaching prospects that were potentially available. However DB felt it was more important to come up with a surprise choice. With the money Tech was willing to offer I believe that some supposedly untouchable coaches would have listened to Tech. Bottom line we really shouldn’t be putting the bulk of the blame on GC but on DB.
 
GMC 98, not sure who you are referring to, but my recollection is that we didn't have a lot of coaches falling over themselves to come to Atlanta. The highest profile candidate I heard about was Terry Bowden. Who do you think we could have gotten?
 
Ty Willingham was not even given any consideration. I don’t know that he would have come to GT but it would have been positive to at least talk to him. Remember CG was hired before ND even talked to him so he was available. Also I thought Mac McWhorter should have been given much more consideration. I am making this statement with some reservations because I looking at only one game he was the head coach. The impressive thing about the Seattle Bowl was it is the only time I have seen a motivated GT team in the last two years. It showed the players respected him and wanted to play for him. There was even some talk of Lou Holtz.
 
Originally posted by beeware:
[QB]Anyone that watched TECH lose to Maryland or Wake would have observed the difference in two well coached teams versus our pathetically coached team.

Maryland stomped us with a less talented team. Wake ran the ball down our throats with a less talented team.

Why did Maryland and Wake beat us with less talent???....because of quality, experienced, competent coaching. Period.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Kinda like how Wake and Virginia beat us in 1999, and how NC State beat us in 2000, and how (take your pick) Virigina, Maryland, and Clemson beat us in 2001? With lesser talent???.... because of quality, experienced, competent coaching. Period.
 
They are struggling this year, but I've said it before we missed out on a good young coach and recruitor and Braine NEVER picked up the phone. (Braine is a another story altogether)

Mike Kruczek of UCF. Done a good job down here and is a great player developer ie: Culpepper

Maybe he wasn't the one for the job, but he didn't even get a call. The media and school officials down here couldn't believe Braine didn't call him.

I wasn't thrilled about any of Braine's choices to be honest. Maybe working for Braine isn't as popular as the media makes it out to be.

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Win or lose, we drink the booze!
 
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