after reading Buzzed ripping on our latest recruit

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after reading Buzzed (member #1248 ripping on our latest recruit) I started looking at some of his 100 posts on Stingtalk.

I could NOT find 1 post that is pro GT /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pat.gif

even the Gailey haters are usually respectful of our new recruits.

If anyone can find ANY positive post this guy has made toward GT please post a link.

I did see where he had dinner w/ Kyle Belcher's parents but since Belcher is currently at Ugag that is not a ringing endorsement.

I have to wonder whether ANOTHER dawgfan has decided to join us on Stingtalk.

Buzzed if I am wrong if you could link us to ANY positive posts then I will gladly apologize. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/behead.gif
 
Still amazing that Ahso has 4700+ posts and I have only 1900. He has posted very little in the past 2 years.

To HELL with Georgia!
 
Check out the ray of sunshine in the post below...


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No doubt we can stand with anyone in terms of the academics we can offer recruits, but with few of our scholarship athletes ultimately selecting our majors that put us in this position, I'm not sure what good it does us. So if we aren't graduating loads of football players with EE degrees, what is that makes us really the most appealing choice for a hot recruit? Is it the social environment we offer? According to the Princeton University survey, our students comprise the 2nd most unhappy student body in the country, so that must not be it. Is it loads of lovely coeds that grace our campus? Uh, no. Is it the support our players get from their classmates? Maybe not as Chris Reis said half of them don't even know we have a football team. OK, then it must be our zealous fan base that fills the stadium at ever opportunity... I guess not. Could it be that we win regularly despite our handicaps? I guess we miss that one, too. Oh, how about our exciting brand of football that puts up points and showcases talents to the NFL? Hmmm...We may have to scratch that one. Fun bowls games to enjoy during the post season? Yes, that's it! Every year we get a long trip across the country! Come to GT!
In all seriousness, we do need to address a lot of issues. We have just locked ourselves into many more years of the above shortcomings. Unless we throw a heavy duty wrench into our entire process, I'm afraid the continued weeping over losing only a 3-star recruit, who may have been our top prospect, will remain more the norm rather than such a player being on the bottom end of our recruiting scale as he would be if he played basketball.
Lots of things are wrong, guys, and we need to find the right AD now that can begin the effort to fix them.



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http://www.stingtalk.com/ubbthreads/show...true#Post133453

Maybe I am TOO MUCH of a glass "half full" GT fan, but my defense is I AM A GT FAN.

I see ND as a coming out party for GT 2006! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hugelaugh.gif

I have a question for some of the BuzzOff crew? Look at Buzzed's posts. He is more anti-GT than BuzzOff.

BuzzOff is "GT sports suck b/c of Braine and Gailey and until those problems are solved GT sports will continue to suck"

BuzzOff is NOT anti-GT. Those guys on BuzzOff are diehard GT fans. They contend GT's greatness is being diminished by certain people in the current admin/coaches. Most of the people on BuzzOff happen to be wrong and intolerable but it does not change the fact they are GT fans.

When you look at Buzzed's posts he does not appear to like GT the school or the sports. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/werd.gif
 
how bout this post.....

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I know it's early but I have been getting concerned about some things after reading about current football prospects on the Rivals site. Seems most every player seriously considering us is one that is being lightly recruited. Almost every player is waiting on a scholarship offer of significance, if not in some cases that first offer at all. Many of the guys we are after are only being recruited by the weaker teams in D1. The top athletes are loaded with options, but few like that seriously mention Tech.
Are we headed towards another marginal recruiting year? This would be 3 in row, a drought that could set the stage for weakness for a decade or more. Are we simply reaching for low hanging fruit without the ability to compete for talent with the best programs? The gap between our program and our top rivals seems to growing. Does our current recruiting style indicate that we have given up on reaching for the upper tier of college football? Should I just ignore Rivals and enjoy the dream that one day top players will again want to wear the gold and white?


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http://www.stingtalk.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=136154&an=0&page=0#136154

that jewel above was posted by Buzzed on 4/3...WOW...he really had his "gold" colored glasses on when he typed that out. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif
 
I appreciate your efforts to characterize my posts, but I must suggest that the frustration generated by our program frequently gives little reason for "rah rah" posts. My supposed negative comments about our recent commitment (and I'm not quite sure how you came up with that) likely stemmed from comments about my desire to see us compete for the region's best talent, rather than settling for prospects that are low hanging fruit. I don't know about you, but I am not satisfied with the performance of our team in recent years and strongly believe that going after the upper tier players will enhance our chances of improving our talent base. When I see prospects with no written offers from any top tier teams, I simply wonder if we are truly trying to get our program back where it used to be, or if we have reached a comfort level of mediocrity.
Is it positive to be satisfied in our current state of athletics or is it positive to want better?
 
Re: after reading Buzzed ripping on our latest rec

I happen to agree with you concerning our recruits lately and how we ought to strive to do much, much better. After all, we have one of the top five storied programs in all of college football - ever.
 
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I simply wonder if we are truly trying to get our program back where it used to be

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No, why would we attempt that? You are the only one around here that wants to win.....

Of course we are trying to win ballgames, but when some see every recruit as being the wrong recruit - every coaching decision as being a sign of desperation. When everything our coach says is dissected, turned upside down on its ear and spun as a negative for the program. When being extremely negative is supposedly not accepting "mediocrity".

I also see that we can be a very good ballclub. We need to take that next leap forward. We have some very exciting wins in the past few years, some heartbreaking losses, and some embarrassments. Time to end the embarassments once and for all. This year is the year that we tell where our program sits. We had a murderous schedule last year. It should be slightly easier this year.

Now give 'em HELL Tech!
 
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I happen to be a positive Tech fan who also agrees that we have very little competitive advantage when it comes to recruiting.

We must acknowledge the change in the landscape since the Dodd area. In a time when 120 were on scholarship, freshmen were ineligible, most kids redshirted their second year, no one left early for the NFL, TV was insignificant in its effect on recruiting, and Tech and most of its opponents were still segregated on the playing field, Tech was in great shape recruiting. My memories of Dodd's teams are that they were more talented than most opponents and were not truly overmatched by anyone on their schedule.

In the post-Dodd era, now approaching forty years, it is all different. The Freshman team and second year redshirt were great for getting Tech athletes ready in the classroom before depending on them on the field. In an absence of TV games in abundance, a media market like Atlanta made Tech football an easy sell. The seventies brought changes in the academic abilities of most great athletes - both white and black players alike. Fewer of the best recruits are strong acdemically. When a ticket to the NFL, an easy major to hide academic deficiencies, a party atmosphere with lots of pretty coeds, and immediate playing time became the recruiting incentives, Tech was and is out of luck. In the post-Dodd area we have never recruited talent on par with major powers. I think trying to fix that is futile.

Why be optimistic? Because we can hire good coaches, recruit to the best of our ability, outwork our opponents, sign great kids who work hard to be bigger, stronger, and faster, and we can be smarter. We can put a cohesive team on the field and win. We can turn a QB no one thought was big enough or strong enough for big time football into a Heisman finalist. A rag tag backfield in the wish bone can
beat the Dawgs 33-14 in Athens, the Black Watch can have a great defensive year in '85, Ross and Shawn Jones and some other great kids, few of whom were star recruits, can whip the Cornhuskers on New Year's Day and be National Champions, and Hamilton and Godsey can outperform 5 star recruits at QB and we can have three fine seasons in a row.
Even now, we can whip Auburn twice and beat Miami at home - we are not that far off from success.

We can not change our school so drastically as to win the national championship of recruiting. But, we can work hard enough with the recruits we can get to beat teams we should not beat, and compete for a national championship on the field. What makes our school great is its work ethic. What will make our football team great will be its work ethic.

It's time to quit whining, appreciate the kids who do want to come to Tech, be loyal and supportive of them, and have a coaching staff that makes sure we outthink and outwork our opponents. The great seasons will come if we follow this formula for success.
 
If you cannot see the change in recruiting strategy and recruiting staff for this year than you are either trying not to see it or do not understand the game.

The change is so dramatic it is laughable. Just the amount of kids at every practice, even during the week, is amazing.

That being said, it is only year one and recruiting is something that builds year after year. The full effect takes time.

Lets put it this way. Gailey and staff has always been more hesitant to offer OL's early, making most early offers to skill players (just as most schools do). So...any offers we have to OL's this early means they are on our 'A' list and are likely to be multi-year starters.
 
Re: how bout this post.....

Well put, 77GTFan. A very honest and realistic approach for everyone to consider.
 
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fact remains that if you have over 100 posts and YOU CANNOT SHOW ME ONE POSITIVE POST then you are NOT a GT fan.

What about the wins over Miami and Auburn?

Where you out of the country during that time period?

It is MUCH more likely that you are NOT and have never been a GT fan.
 
Re: after reading Buzzed ripping on our latest rec

Hey I love Tech and all, but "top 5 storied programs of all of college football"? How do you figure that? We're top 20, but top 5?
 
Hivered you are exactly right. The change in recruiting is dramatic. It makes you wonder how much these guys know about recruiting and or football. We could sign a slew of 5 star recruits and they'd still find a way to complain. Get some knowledge guys and you'll see the big improvement in recruiting. Enjoy being a Tech fan if that's what you really are.
 
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The change in recruiting is dramatic.

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..and Gailey has been here how long???
 
I would agree with your thought there geetee, it took Gailey far too long to realize his approach wasn't working and for him to make major changes. That said though, he's changed and he's the coach for next season at least. Why continue to complain about things that have happened in the past. We know how you feel...many people feel the same way. But those things can't be changed. There will be plenty to complain about if he doesn't improve.
 
Wouldn't you think that the jury is still out on how well we have recruited? I am anticipating that we are improving on good, not bad, recruiting.
 
I think you are exactly right....

that our recruiting has not been all-star caliber, but it has been full of good solid players and I think THAT is what Gailey (and/or his staff) has the knack for. People want to see everything in black or white and they either argue that Gailey is a genius because he gets very good players who aren't ranked high (witness wins over Miami and Auburn), or he is a failure because his recruits don't have many stars and we lose to Duke and NCSU. I don't think either are exactly right. I think Gailey could recruit better, but where he excels is in getting the solid, non-flashy, blue-collar player from in that middle pack. In that middle pack of high school seniors will be some stars who just fell through the cracks; those are easy. The tough ones are the ones that all look about the same, but some will come to a D1 program and excel while others will come to a D1 program and flop. Gailey seems to be very good at finding the ones who apparently look pretty pedestrian to most "experts" but he can bring them in and make them very productive -- maybe not stars - but very solid D1 players.

I don't think we are very far away from being pretty darn good. We have the solid dependable role players. We just need a couple of more super playmakers like Calvin.

BTW, I also thought 77's post was excellent.

And I can't really argue that much with what Buzzed says about our advantages and disadvantages in recruiting, etc.

Where I draw the line is in criticizing someone who wants to come here - especially before he has even seen the inside of the whirlpool. I don't care if ALL of our recruits are only offered by The Little Sisters of the Poor - the LEAST we can do is see how they play before we are critical of their potential to contribute. JMHO.
 
I don't think our recruiting has been bad, just that as hard as it can be to recruit at Tech we needed the changes Gailey has instituted 3 years ago. I did some work earlier this year that shows if we had a full class of kids ranked exactly how our signed players this year were, our class would have improved 20 places in Scout's rankings. That would have made us about 30 which is a pretty good class. Our numbers hurt us and the lack of any 5 star kids. But that isn't the same as saying the kids we did get can't play. They can and they will be good D1 players imo.
 
Re: how bout this post.....

Dang fine post 77GTFan. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
 
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