Discussion in 'Football' started by whenyousaybud, Sep 15, 2019.
I mean, a ööööty bowl is something CPJ could only get us in twice in his last 4 years so...
Dabo thinks some of y’all are idiots
GO’L was 7-0 against Duke
...average margin of victory, about 3 touchdowns per game.
Losing to David Cutcliffe isn't the same as losing to Ted Roof or Carl Franks. Some of y'all should concede that Duke isn't "Duke" of the 90s and 00s. They ain't great but Cutcliffe has made them competitive.
You’re the worst kind of Monday morning QB pansy. Support GT instead of whining like a little bitch with the “ I told ya so “ bullshit
The ACC does not deserve Dabo Swinney. Dude is always out there repping the league
B.S. -statistics don’t back up the theory
ACC Coastal vs Duke last five years (2014-2018)
GT (1-4) -50 point differential
UM (4-1) +51
UNC (2-3) +43
Pitt (4-1) +73
UVA (4-1) +36
VPI (4-1) +40
Over the last five years (2014-2018) Duke’s overall record in the ACC is 16-24: 11-16 vs Coastal, 5-5 vs Atlantic (3-2 vs WF, W vs BC, SU, L vs CU, FSU, UL.
Great. Do Carl Franks' and Ted Roof's tenure now. Those point differentials show a much more competitive Duke team than two decades ago.
I'll concede that Duke has done a really good job at stopping option teams in the last half decade. They shut down Army last year and have won three-of-four against Monken and are 3-0 versus Navy during Cutcliffe's tenure.
Much more competitive? Look at those numbers vs the Coastal, GT is in negative net points at 50, everyone else is in the positive, and two-thirds of the division are each 4-1 vs them. GT has by far been outperformed vs Duke when compared to the rest of the division.
My argument is that Duke is a better team under Cutcliffe than under his predecessors, which your numbers show. Yes, Duke is losing overall to the Coastal but (A) their record is still better than it used to be and (B) they are losing by about a touchdown a game to every team, which in my opinion shows they are "competitive."
My facts speak for themselves-
4-1 vs Duke from 2014-2018- UM, Pitt, UVA, VPI
1-4 vs Duke from 2014-2018- GT
Wins and losses, division wins and losses, matter most. Those four teams have beaten the more competitive Duke, Georgia Tech has not.
Duke won four ACC games in the preceding eight years before Cutcliffe took over. If you don't want to concede that Cutcliffe has made Duke a more competitive football team, then there's not much I can do to help you.
You’re ignoring the obvious.
And I do believe I used the language, “the more competitive Duke” in my last response.
Lulz. This is either the most clownish or the most brilliant thing he's ever said
CPJ clearly was able to scheme and game day coach to victory over more talented teams. The question was how much more talented. As the talent gap grew he could not keep pace. No scheme can. CGC and staff cannot over come any talent gaps. Recently proven inability to beat equal talent. I believe the talent was equal and for rest of season will be less or best case equal. Result ?? Wins hard to come by. My concern is the staffs dependency on quickly closing the talent and ultimatly fielding the more talented team in order to win. Also it is reasonable to assume that CGC will get better. Right now I guess he is a red shirt soph along the head coach learnng curve?
Ask Alabama how competitive they are
What i do find ironic is that most are saying we should’ve out-talent The Citadel to a win with the same people saying they love the Flexbone/Triple Option bc it’s the ultimate talent equalizer.
After reviewing the film, i also think Coach PateNO deserves Less criticism and we need to accept that our QBs and OL is not where it needs to be
I think it's possible to believe we have much better talent than the Citadel and still think the flexbone gives us a better chance to beat the Miamis, North Carolinas, and Virginia Techs of the world.
In fact, the "we ain't got no talent" folks need to realize there's a hell of a gulf between a Top 50 class (which is roughly where Paul's classes fell) and an FCS class somewhere in the Top 250 of Division I, which is where the Citadel's typical class falls.