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Yukonwreck

Yukonwreck

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that don't understand there is no--none, zip, zero, nada--no chance of winning the division now better take another large cup of the Kool-Aid.
This coaching philosophy--not necessarily the persons themselves, but the philosophy is not suited to winning college football games. It is rooted in the NFL where you can count on being among the elite teams if you lose three or four games. Hell, that's SuperBowl material.
And even if that idiot that has posted that we could still win the Coastal Division with 3 losses is right, we aren't beating Miami and we aren't beating Virginia Tech. Wake up TechNation. We don't have a coach.
 
Yukonwreck said:
that don't understand there is no--none, zip, zero, nada--no chance of winning the division now better take another large cup of the Kool-Aid.
This coaching philosophy--not necessarily the persons themselves, but the philosophy is not suited to winning college football games. It is rooted in the NFL where you can count on being among the elite teams if you lose three or four games. Hell, that's SuperBowl material.
And even if that idiot that has posted that we could still win the Coastal Division with 3 losses is right, we aren't beating Miami and we aren't beating Virginia Tech. Wake up TechNation. We don't have a coach.
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I'll give you two out of three about winning the division and your take on the NFL coaching philosophy. I won't give up to Miami and VT until the last seconds run off the clock.
 
Yukonwreck said:
that don't understand there is no--none, zip, zero, nada--no chance of winning the division now better take another large cup of the Kool-Aid.
This coaching philosophy--not necessarily the persons themselves, but the philosophy is not suited to winning college football games. It is rooted in the NFL where you can count on being among the elite teams if you lose three or four games. Hell, that's SuperBowl material.
And even if that idiot that has posted that we could still win the Coastal Division with 3 losses is right, we aren't beating Miami and we aren't beating Virginia Tech. Wake up TechNation. We don't have a coach.
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How many points did UNC just put up on Miami? They're not that good. At least MD, UVA, and BC were decent to good teams (BC being very good).

I have no fantasies about making to the ACCCG, but I will still go into every game expecting a win.

I'll probably also end the season expecting a new coach for next year.
 
You can't say it is zero. We have ONE divisional loss. Miami lost today...
 
You can't say it is zero.
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It's zero. ZERO. There is no way our entire division is going to lose 4 ACC games each. It's mathematically impossible.

Matter of fact, you go ahead and figure out a way that the entire division could lose more games than us, and post it here. Figure out several ways if you like. Then assign a 50/50 probability for every game in your prediction tree and figure out what the chances are. You're in college, right? It's a good stochastics exercise.

beej67,
pretty sure you're going to see an answer around 2%
 
beej67 said:
It's zero. ZERO. There is no way our entire division is going to lose 4 ACC games each. It's mathematically impossible.

Matter of fact, you go ahead and figure out a way that the entire division could lose more games than us, and post it here. Figure out several ways if you like. Then assign a 50/50 probability for every game in your prediction tree and figure out what the chances are. You're in college, right? It's a good stochastics exercise.

beej67,
pretty sure you're going to see an answer around 2%
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Who said every other team had to lose four?
 
All ACC games count in the divisional standings not just those in the division.. It doesn't matter how we do against divisional foes except for the bonus of getting a win and giving them a loss.
 
2 1/2 games --but now 4 on the loss side-- behind the division leader --with 4 division games left on your schedule.

4 other teams ahead of you in the standings.

Closer to Duke and the cellar than you are UVA and the top.

It's very damn well over.
 
If UVA, Miami, and VT all end up with 3 losses we go to the ACCCG provided we win out.
 
GTKyle said:
If UVA, Miami, and VT all end up with 3 losses we go to the ACCCG provided we win out.
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We already have 3 conference losses, one of those is to UVA...they beat us in the head to head, so they would go, not us. Correct?
 
If UVA, Miami, and VT all end up with 3 losses we go to the ACCCG provided we win out.
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Sure, except UVA would probably need to lose 4.

The problem is, they all play each other, so SOME OF THEM are bound to win SOME games, and most of them have already won more than us.

Seriously, try and figure out how to assign 3 or 4 losses to each team in the Coastal. I'd love to see the scenarios. Then if you don't know how to do the math, I'll hold your hand and walk you through it. The prospects are essentially zero.
 
beej67 said:
Seriously, try and figure out how to assign 3 or 4 losses to each team in the Coastal. I'd love to see the scenarios.
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That would be interesting to research --I'm just to freakin' burned out right now to do it.
 
I mean yeah, if VT and Miami could play each other and both lose, it'd be possible, but one team has to win when they play. Same goes for UVA. You can't win a division starting 1-3.
 
beej67 said:
It's zero. ZERO. There is no way our entire division is going to lose 4 ACC games each. It's mathematically impossible.

Matter of fact, you go ahead and figure out a way that the entire division could lose more games than us, and post it here. Figure out several ways if you like. Then assign a 50/50 probability for every game in your prediction tree and figure out what the chances are. You're in college, right? It's a good stochastics exercise.

beej67,
pretty sure you're going to see an answer around 2%
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5-3 will win the division and if it's a 3 way tie, we should hold the tiebreaker with a 4-1 division record. We're better than every team left on the schedule but I'm not prediciting we win the rest.

I'd say we have about a 10% chance of going 4-0 from here on out but if we do I think we'll go to the ACCC game.
 
SMoney said:
We already have 3 conference losses, one of those is to UVA...they beat us in the head to head, so they would go, not us. Correct?
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Not correct. I have gone over this before.

Say it ends up being this:

VT (5-3) (Losses to GT, some other team, some other team)
Miami (5-3) (Losses to GT, VT, UNC)
GT (5-3) (Losses to BC, UVA, MD)
UVA (5-3) (Losses to VT, Miami, some other team)

This means there is a 4 way tie. GT, VT are 2-1 against the field. UVA and Miami are 1-2. Since we beat VT, we go to the ACCCG.
 
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