Article: No MNCs ever again

00Burdell said:
So we can't win a Natty ever again because of the offense we run today?

Any school that has already notched 4 MNCs can sure as hell win another one.

What a doofus.
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The only post-integration title is 1990. You actually believe we can make it to the CFP and then beat two top 4 teams (one probably being Alabama)? Are you serious?
 
TampaBayJacket said:
The only post-integration title is 1990. You actually believe we can make it to the CFP and then beat two top 4 teams (one probably being Alabama)? Are you serious?
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It is as likely today as it was then. I started at Tech in 87. Was still there in 90. Nobody in 87 saw 90.
 
Bremstrahlung said:
It is as likely today as it was then. I started at Tech in 87. Was still there in 90. Nobody in 87 saw 90.
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Yeah, what I'm saying is that 1990 team would not have won a title in 2018. ACC is much harder, UGA is ridiculous now (they were 4-7 in 1990) and then that team would've had to beat an elite team + bama in the CFP. That 1990 team was great but it had to win a weaker ACC, shitty UGA team and then 9-2 Nebraska (not even big 8 champs). That team had some NFL talent but not multiple first rounders up and down the roster like a typical CFP team today.

Finally, today's GT team doesnt even have single *draftable* NFL player on its roster. How the heck could we make the CFP and then win two games? I think you're trolling and I just took the bait.
 
I'm not buying that we can't win a title. Hell we've had three seasons in the past decade that it was at least a halfway decent chance late in the season. 2014 catastrophe against UNC or Duke, coupled with a win over FSU and we could have been in. I know the ball hasn't bounced our way in a lot of big games, but we have certainly been on the cusp of the cusp enough to have a chance.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Methinks you're overstating things. Seismic changes would be needed for us to win an ACC championship anytime soon? We were a play or two away from doing so in 2014. FSU was about as much of a powerhouse at the time that Clemson is now. What has drastically changed in just a few years? And you really don't think we'd make the CFP with one loss as ACC champs? That would mean we likely beat the likes of Clemson, uga, Miami, Virginia Tech and they are going to keep us out because what? The option? Wrong shade of gold? Grumpy coach? Again, it's a really high bar and would take a special group of guys to get there, but it's not literally impossible.
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Yes, seismic changes, like completing more than one pass per game, or forcing five punts in a game.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
Anybody who thinks any GT team is super far away from anything should remember our 2015 team had just a single win over a power 5 team, and that team was in the top 10. We also did that exact same thing in 1988. öööö changes fast.
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No, shit used to be able to change fast. The mere creation of the P5 consolidates the talent in about twenty teams, none of which wear old gold and white at home. There isn't a Friedgen or O'Leary on staff. No one resembles Clay, Tiggle, Mooney, Bennett, Sisson, etc., on the roster.
 
Yukonwreck said:
No, öööö used to be able to change fast. The mere creation of the P5 consolidates the talent in about twenty teams, none of which wear old gold and white at home. There isn't a Friedgen or O'Leary on staff. No one resembles Clay, Tiggle, Mooney, Bennett, Sisson, etc., on the roster.
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Do you remember 2013?
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
Do you remember 2013?
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I thought I did. But lately I forget shit. If you are trying to say 2013 to 2014 was the kind of improvement we could have in one year to move into the ACCCG, win it, and be the new Clempsen, then no, I don't remember that.
 
Yukonwreck said:
I thought I did. But lately I forget öööö. If you are trying to say 2013 to 2014 was the kind of improvement we could have in one year to move into the ACCCG, win it, and be the new Clempsen, then no, I don't remember that.
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I don't even know what that means.
 
Can we please win another ACC Championship first?
 
TampaBayJacket said:
Yeah, what I'm saying is that 1990 team would not have won a title in 2018. ACC is much harder, UGA is ridiculous now (they were 4-7 in 1990) and then that team would've had to beat an elite team + bama in the CFP. That 1990 team was great but it had to win a weaker ACC, ööööty UGA team and then 9-2 Nebraska (not even big 8 champs). That team had some NFL talent but not multiple first rounders up and down the roster like a typical CFP team today.

Finally, today's GT team doesnt even have single *draftable* NFL player on its roster. How the heck could we make the CFP and then win two games? I think you're trolling and I just took the bait.
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Eat a bag of dicks while dying in a fire.
 
southendzoneBEE said:
I'm not buying that we can't win a title. Hell we've had three seasons in the past decade that it was at least a halfway decent chance late in the season. 2014 catastrophe against UNC or Duke, coupled with a win over FSU and we could have been in. I know the ball hasn't bounced our way in a lot of big games, but we have certainly been on the cusp of the cusp enough to have a chance.
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We also had lost Smelter in the UGA game. I think we beat FSU if he had played.

Think of UGA’s miracle season last year. They literally had the most luck they’ve ever had: Senior-laden team with only one injury. And that injury actually helped them out tremendously.

Luck does play a huge part in football. Hell, look at how unlucky Tech was one year removed from winning the Orange Bowl. Most injuries to a football team I’ve ever seen until UNC’s season last year.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Okay, what about 2013 am I supposed to remember, relative to Georgia Tech being able to win the national championship again one day?
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In 2013 we looked generally awful, only won 5 FBS games, lost a miserable bowl against an unranked Ole Miss featuring a DC we'd fired, then the next year we played to within 2 points and the last seconds of our conference championship game against a team that subsequently went to the playoff while we won the Orange Bowl in dominating fashion against a top ten team that had spent four weeks at #1 after racking up 3 top 10 wins of its own?

And if you want to believe the "we suck" crowd, we did it all with a single OL that was any good, despite his terrible OL coach. Ted Roof was our DC, too, and it's not like he inherited something special from Groh. So how the hell are we so far away from doing better than that? Shit still changes very fast, and there's a reason for it: the margin between a good team and an average team in college football is actually really small compared to the margin between a good program and an average program. The advantages of the Clemsons and Alabamas just allow them to field good teams more often than average ones, but that thin margin is why Clemson and Alabama don't often have undefeated seasons, and why the UCFs and the WMUs of the world sometimes come up and smash teams fielded by top level programs.
 
Yukonwreck said:
I thought I did. But lately I forget öööö. If you are trying to say 2013 to 2014 was the kind of improvement we could have in one year to move into the ACCCG, win it, and be the new Clempsen, then no, I don't remember that.
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You might have to get a colonoscopy to see if your attitude is caused by some kind of blockage.
 
Yukonwreck said:
No, öööö used to be able to change fast. The mere creation of the P5 consolidates the talent in about twenty teams, none of which wear old gold and white at home. There isn't a Friedgen or O'Leary on staff. No one resembles Clay, Tiggle, Mooney, Bennett, Sisson, etc., on the roster.
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I realize Fridge and O'Leary were on a MNC winning staff, but the best O'Leary did as the head coach was the Gator Bowl and a "co-ACC championship" that everyone knows FSU won due to the head to head. Our current head coach has been to two Orange Bowls and has unquestionably gotten us closer to a natty than his two previous predecessors. How that means we're so much farther away for some reason now than we were then, I have no idea.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Wow, everybody's a comedian now. I gotcha colonoscopy right here, pal.
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I showed that post to CHD. Then we got into a discussion about how well you can sleep with the drugs they give you for a colonoscopy.
 
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