Best coach in the south?

Look at it this way....I could probably coach USC and call the plays and win all but 3 or 4 games (7 or 8 wins). I would be the worst coach no doubt, but I would have a winning record.
It's not just our record that bothers critics about Chan,which is decent/mediocre...it's the way we lose our games, who we lose to and how pathetic our offense has become under Chan despite having pretty good players in the skill positions(except Reggie) but I do believe PJ was among the top ACC rushers and Calvin speaks for himself, yet our offense was ranked like 100th or something. I'm beating a dead horse here I know.

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MGT, that's what I'd say as well. We beat a Miami, a nationally recognized team, then lose big time to Utah, We beat Auburn then lose to NCSt. I just can't believe CCG, we have a good lead against VT 2 years ago then 6 3's and out what happens we lose! It's that kind of thing that has convinced me and many others that indeed CCG can't coach at the D1 level. We don't need to mention 51-7 x 2, or Duke or Fresno, it's just up down, up down. An O that's rated near the bottom statistically in D1 NCAA offense, yet pretty dang high defensively, if CCG had produced an O anywhere in the top 60 or so we might have had a chance against the Utes of this world.

EDIT: Forgot, get beat by BYU a team that won 4 games that year so that should have been a wake up call for the Utes! Sorry if you think I hijacked this tread didn't mean to but sometimes get carried away and especially after reading a post like MGT made!
 
Thanks for agreeing, for a minute there I felt like I had taken some crazy pills or something. It's so obvious! But not everybody gets it.
 
I hear what you're saying, 51-7x2, Dookdebacle, yadayadayada, but even so, the 3rd worse coach in NCAA wouldn't have a winning record five years in a row. That's neither reasonable nor logical.

Now if he had USC's, or even UGA's talent to work with I might agree, but it's not even close. That's not an excuse. It's a fact.
 
Your fact? Lets see your fact, as I see it one good game against a somebody then a horrible game against a nobody, now repeat that several times and you just might get it. Best coach in the south not even close! GTL remember it was his QB, his offense, his SP teams coach etc. Repeat after me now, good game, horrible game, good game, horrible game, now repeat that many times and you've got it. Thats why he's rated the 3rd worst coach or the Bronze Medal winner after taking a Gold last year.

EDIT: By the way how many years has CCG been here anyway seems like an eternity!
 
My top 10 over the last decade in the south:
1. Bowden 6. Tuberville
2. Beamer 7. Richt
3. Spurrier 8. Fulmer
4. Saban 9. O'Leary
5. Petrino 10. Bower
(Honorable Mention: Friedgen, T Bowden, Johnson,
Welch, Groh, Gailey, Amato, Coker, Watson Brown)
 
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Now if he had USC's, or even UGA's talent to work with I might agree, but it's not even close. That's not an excuse. It's a fact.

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Why can the chan haters not accept this fact? I'm not saying that we'd be competing for nat'l championships but all these games they point to would not have been nearly as bad or even losses. But, Nix is now the O.C. and we're getting more depth and better recruiting efforts so things are on the upswing so can everybody just try to get along?
 
Yeah, look at the recrootin rankings, the NFL draft picks, whatever and see what kind of talent we have had. We've undoubtadly had great players, including a top 10 pick in CJ, but the #1 coach on the list had THREE first-round draft picks. And they beat FSU and GT and lost to everyone else except for directional schools.

In short, CFB is about matchups. We beat Miami mostly because we frazzled a young QB, our offense was adequate and our defense absolutely played lights out. Against NC State, they again had three draft picks on their DL and matched up against the fifth game our undersized OL had together. It was no wonder that Reggie was running for his life for all of the first half and also that we only got progress in the second half, when our smaller OLs outlasted NCS's DLs.

There are legitamate WTF games in the first two years of Chan's tenure, including Duke and 51-7. I think these games came at the beginning of his tenure mainly because these players were GOL's and came to play for that style of coach. Since Chan has brought in his players and increased the general quality of the team, these WTF games haven't happened in the past two years. I'm sure somebody will mention VPI and Emerald Bowl, but there's reasons for why those games got out of control and I've already gone too long.
 
Fla J. what are the reasons for those two games? Pls explain. To me those two games are wtf happend games.
 
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Your fact? Lets see your fact, as I see it one good game against a somebody then a horrible game against a nobody, now repeat that several times and you just might get it. Best coach in the south not even close!

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The FACT that I was referring to is that GT does NOT have near the talent level as a UGA or USC. Period. That's not an excuse, that's REAL.

And read the post Fog, I never claimed Gailey to be best coach in the south, never intended to. All I'm saying is that he is far from the worst. All I'm saying is that he is far from the worst. Ya git it, now?

And yes, the great games are pretty much offset by the bad games, but that has as much to do with the talent level as with Gailey as a coach. Even so, even considering he's responsible for bringing in talent, there's NO WAY he's one of the 5 worst coaches in D1. We did, once upon a time, have one of the 5 worst coaches, but he's long gone. Compare his record with Gailey's.
 
To me GTL after 4 years of the same stuff and losing to just about everybody who is a nobody, he may not be #1 as the worst but he sure earned his Bronze medal! He's certainly not the best that's for sure! For dividing the fan base had that been figured in, he might have been the Gold medal winner two years in a row! And by the way how many years has CCG been here?
 
In all seriousness, I rank what O'Leary did at UCF from the end of '04 thru the '05 season as remarkable. Too short a period to say top 5, but for this time frame I say absolutely.
The '06 season will have a lot to say about the incredible turnaround last year. I of course give high marks to the apparant excellent job Godsey is doing under George.
 
A VERY mediocore Utah team even withouts its starting qb.. 'nuff said right there about Gailey. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pat.gif
 
Not to get off the main topic of this thread, but RM I have a question or two for you, now answer them truthfully. Why have you supported MEDIOCRITY for so long before speaking up? Why do you try to belittle everyone who points out CCG's short coming? Why did you not speak up if in fact you love Tech the way you say you do before the end of last season. These are some of the things I don't understand about you. I have wondered and wondered, but you never seem to give facts just belittle other posters who correctly point out the problems with CCG.

GEETEE you forgot Fresno without 7 of it's players!
 
Supporting mediocrity. We really do need a code for that phrase it comes up so much.

How hard is it to understand that some think that Gailey is setting the foundation for better things? There are maybe 2 people who post on here who are satisfied with where we are. The rest who aren't after Gailey's job believe that we have clearly suffered our ups and downs. We've had some great wins and some awful losses. But most people are at a point where we need to see things stabilize or make a change.

You realize that most people would consider being told they support mediocrity a personal insult right? So my question is why you continue to insult other posters? Why not simply ask people why they support Gailey? To you it may be the same thing. To others it's an insult. Kind of like if someone suggested that your approach is irrational. Wouldn't you think that was an insult?
 
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Since Chan has brought in his players and increased the general quality of the team, these WTF games haven't happened in the past two years. I'm sure somebody will mention VPI and Emerald Bowl, but there's reasons for why those games got out of control and I've already gone too long.

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Hahah....Chan has increased the quality of the team? I know stats are for losers (like being able to count to 4th down)...but are you serious telling me that Chan's recruits are better than O'Leary's? Were O'leary's recruiting classes ranked in the 50's? I think not. 5 7-win seasons in a row, down from previous years is improving the quality of the team? Taking a once potent offense from respectable to ranked near 100 (with 2 of the top skill position players in the conference no less in PJ and Calvin) is improving the quality of the team? Ahahahaha!

I want what you guys are smoking. I just hope Nix can get it done, period.

Just noticed I'm upgraded from Lurker Maximus to Flats Noob...now that's improvement!
 
NC Jacket...
Fact 1 : Chan's coaching is Mediocre at best, 7-wins every year is mediocre, offense is less than mediocre.

Fact 2: you support and defendChan Gailey

1+2= you support mediocrity

Pretty advanced math huh?

At thing Will Ferrell said it best...
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
 
Who have I belittled OF? You yourself know so much about football you answer all questions yourself. You come in here and Hijack another thread about coaches. Look it's OK if you hate Chan but you have never brought up one thread about football other than bashing Chan.

I don't know where you get this mediocrity shit as you spew out, I never have supported it but I am REALISTIC IN WHAT HAPPENS AT GT. You my friend are not. you keep bringing up Dodds name and that you have been a fan for 60+ years but yet you do nothing but bash Chan, Grow up and talk some football with out having to bash Chan every chance you get.

I told Chan personally that I expect 9 + wins this year or changes would need to be made. Why don't you go and talk to him as well or will you keep talking to players who you say, say bad things and then you spew them off on this and bbboard.

Show my one person I have belittled on this board, I respect everyone's opinion but it's hard to respect the shit you continue to spew and then you run off to the other board and beat your chest like your some man or something.

My advice to you for what it's worth is shut the hell up until you bring something to the table besides the shit you spew about Chan.
 
GTL, he obviously does not mean bottom 5 in the nation. All of his worst five are BCS coaches. It's not a stretch to say Chan is bottom 5 in the BCS.
 
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