Bilbo to start vs Fresno

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I heard over on the Hive that Bilbo will start vs Fresno State and not Suggs.I would like us to win
vs Fresno but it takes hard work and determination to win and we need to win to prove some teams wrong about us.One more thing i hope we do well in recruiting next season.

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Hopefully, DBo's foot will be 100% by the 31st. If this is going to be his audition for the starting job next year, it'd be a shame if he was hampered by an injury.

I hope they let him loose and give him the freedom to improvise a little. I've always thought Bilbo has all the tools to star at GT. I guess if he does get the chance to play serious minutes, this will be all of the DBo crowd's chance to see if our guy is the player we think he is.

Of course, if Bilbo has a killer game, it will just lead to more speculation about what could have been in some of GT's ugly losses this year.
 
Originally posted by Beezoner:

Of course, if Bilbo has a killer game, it will just lead to more speculation about what could have been in some of GT's ugly losses this year.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">This is certainly true, since some people can only see the down side of GT football. Of course he WAS in our ugliest loss, which has apparently become the favorite GT game of all time to some posters.
 
That is just a rumor that spiraled after someone put that in their subject line...then revealed in the message that they were speculating.

The fact is no one knows who is starting...and if the game were held today, DBo could not play because of his ankle.
 
Originally posted by hiveredtech:
That is just a rumor that spiraled after someone put that in their subject line...then revealed in the message that they were speculating.

The fact is no one knows who is starting...and if the game were held today, DBo could not play because of his ankle.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">You're not honestly suggesting someone speculated and it's turned into a rumor? That kind of thing doesn't happen on boards.
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You're right. We don't know what's going to happen. I just hope D'bo is healthy and gets good practice time in before Bowl. Hope that for our our guys.

Go Jackets!
 
Basically, D-bo's R-freshman year has been squandered for no apparent good reason.

D-bo's situation this year was almost identical to Joe Hamilton's R-freshman year. We had Brandon Shaw that year just like we had AJ Suggs this year. Brandon was arguably better than Joe at that time, just like AJ was supposedly better than D-bo this year. But Joe had virtually unlimited potential, just like D-bo, much more than Shaw or Suggs.

Coach O'leary saw the potential of Joe Hamilton, and realizing the importance of game experience, he went ahead and made Joe the starter. The dividends of this move were obvious and Joe became a big time player partly because he was able to get so much experience as a freshman.

It is a crying shame, and a terrible mistake, that D-bo's R-freshman year wasn't allowed to be as productive as Joe Hamilton's....which is strange, because our coach repeatedly assured us that D-bo was "way too talented to stand beside him on the sideline."
 
Beeware:

It is funny how you mention that O'Leary saw the potential and stuck with Ham.

I know for an absolute fact, that they struggled with starting Hammy in, I believe Game 5 against UNC, and that if he did not play well...Friedgen said he was ready to move on to the next QB if he did not play well.
 
Originally posted by beeware:
[QB]Basically, D-bo's R-freshman year has been squandered for no apparent good reason.

D-bo's situation this year was almost identical to Joe Hamilton's R-freshman year. We had Brandon Shaw that year just like we had AJ Suggs this year. Brandon was arguably better than Joe at that time, just like AJ was supposedly better than D-bo this year. But Joe had virtually unlimited potential, just like D-bo, much more than Shaw or Suggs.

Coach O'leary saw the potential of Joe Hamilton, and realizing the importance of game experience, he went ahead and made Joe the starter. The dividends of this move were obvious and Joe became a big time player partly because he was able to get so much experience as a freshman.

It is a crying shame, and a terrible mistake, that D-bo's R-freshman year wasn't allowed to be as productive as Joe Hamilton's....which is strange, because our coach repeatedly assured us that D-bo was "way too talented to stand beside him on the sideline."
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Beeware - I couldn't have said it any better. I agree 100%...This HAS to be one of the most wasted opportunities I've seen in quite a while.

I also hope he has more than three plays to work with...if we open with the old, D-Bo off tackle I think I'll
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Actually, it was 2nd half at Wake Forest that Joe Ham turned it around. I have to give O'Leary a lot of credit for sticking with Hamilton despite numerous freshman errors. I would have given up on him and brought in Shaw. That's why I am not a coach!
 
Beezoner, this will not be the Debo's crowd chance to see if he is what they think he is. Not only is he hurt and not practicing, but more importantly he hasn't played this YEAR! To be fair to him and the team, he has to go through the same kind of frustrations Joe did and then we will see in my opinion, one of the more gifted athletes we've had at QB since Shawn Jones. THWG
 
Love Joe, but his RF year was pretty rough. Heard him speak at Lunch with George about it. It wasn't till around half way through his RS year that things started to click. Joe was something like 12 ITs and 6 TDs as a RF. The comparisons of the two situations isn't fair to Joe or Bilbo. Completely different situations.

This is just another one of those threads that's turned into an GT coaching bash with current coaches.

No one has any idea what would have happened if Bilbo was the starter all year. To speculate isn't fair to him or anyone else on the team in my opinion.
 
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You are right - however, I have to say, in over 40 years of playing, coaching, observing FB, D-Bo is one of the most fluid, atheletic, gifted QB's in terms opf raw talent I've seen in a LONG time..Add his overall strength and particularly his arm strength ( I can't recall the game, but he "flipped" a pass, almost casually around 70 yards with no effort)....He has SUCH a huge upside, I'm continually amazed that we can't at LEAST give him a full half, or whatever to see if he is for real.
 
Originally posted by rammsting:
Actually, it was 2nd half at Wake Forest that Joe Ham turned it around. I have to give O'Leary a lot of credit for sticking with Hamilton despite numerous freshman errors. I would have given up on him and brought in Shaw. That's why I am not a coach!
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">The only problem with your statement beware and others is that Shaw was not in the same class as a player as Suggs was. Suggs did make a lot of game loosing mistakes but had us in a position to win or tie all the games except MD, and ugag while Shaw did not come close to succeeding and so the big O had no choice but to try little Joe. and the rest is history as they say. I like Bilbo and would have love to seen him play but it is evident that coach Chan thought he was not ready to replace Suggs or he would have played. It is not the same as Shaw and little Joe. Just my opinion.
 
We must not forget that Suggs (despite his shortcomings) DID lead us to BIG wins over two of the best teams in the conference...NC State and UVA. He ALSO had us VERY close to win against Wake and Clemson. He's almost assuredly a much better QB than Shaw was and that alone makes this comparison to the previous year ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by JacketFanPCB:
He ALSO had us VERY close to win against Wake and Clemson.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">By the way....do you know what they call those "Very close to wins"?

That's right......losses.
 
Just for the record, the coaches thought about pulling Joe during games in his sophomore year. Both of the posters above were right. Joe Ham the sophomore came close to getting the hook vs. Wake and UNC.

IMHO, both Joe Ham and Brandon Shaw of '96 were much better QBs than AJ Suggs was this year. I didn't see enough of Bilbo to make a judgement. Joe was not that bad as a freshman, he made some key mistakes but he was a great leader and kept us in a lot of games. That '96 team had little in the way of WR threats, so Joe often had to make things happen. He basically had three WR bodies, Middleton, Sheridan, and Muyres. Jeremy Muyres was considered the guy that could stretch the defense, he caught 2 balls in '96. The '96 line was a pretty rag-tag bunch as well.

While I think Bilbo should have been give more of an opportunity to show what he could do, I don't think the comparison of '96 Joe Ham to '02 Bilbo is a good one. Joe Hamilton was much further along prior to the '96 season. If you watched Joe Ham at practice prior to the '96 defense it really looked like he knew what he was doing. Prior to the start of this season, Bilbo was struggling to call plays in the huddle at practice. He's just been slow to pick things up. Doesn't mean he isn't smart though. Still, I would have given him a really simple offense to run and see what would happen. I might even try to do like Clemson and let Nix call the plays for him while we ran a no-huddle attack.

If the '96 Joe Ham was on this roster, he would be the starter. It would be an open and shut case. IMHO, it didn't take any genius to go with Joe Ham in '96. He was our best leader and best QB at the time.
 
You guys seem to be missing a very basic point. It is CG's goal to ruin GT football. This is the only conceivable reason that he did not coach the team to win 12 games, it's why he started who he started, it's why he ran off Ted, and it's why he made sure we had so many injuries. After all, he took the job as a well-paying sinecure to set up his retirement. You know, I've heard he has an in with Father Hesburgh and suggested at Mass one morning that GO'L could be lured from Tech. That may only be a rumor.

It's sad, really.
 
Belly, TOO MUCH!!
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Oh goodness. You're very gifted at making a point without ever saying what your point is. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Well, I for one, would love to see CG give DBo the full Monty of a game to see what he could do. If he crashes and burns then we can all STHU about the QB situation and pray that Reggie Ball or Al Pena can do the job as a true freshman.

If he does well, it only spring boards us into the new year with great anticipation for better things.

But if all we see is AJ for 80-90% of the snaps then...
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