Brad Jefferson!

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gtownjacket: Have you seen the film? No college linebacker or safety could match up with him. If I am Pat Nix I fight tooth and nail to get him for the offense and then start dreaming up ways to get him the football.

Jefferson has too much physical ability, too much speed to waste it at safety and too light...and with him being a sprinter it is hard to imagine him gaining a lot of weight...to make the impact some of y'all would anticipate at linebacker.

His most immeadiate impact....his most immeadiate chance to change the direction of a game is on offense.
 
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But doesn't CJT usually get first crack at the players
playing both sides of the ball. If he does, I doubt he
gives this one up.

Also, though he has great speed, I didn't see many jukes
to avoid tacklers when on offense. He relied simply on his
speed, which he can do in HS, & doesn't appear to have
mastered much wiggle in his hips. But I've only seen a few
clips. Certainly glad to have him.
 
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gtownjacket: Do you remember Kelly Campbell flying down the sideline and blowing past the Florida State defensive backfield?

That is what I envisioned when I watched that film last night. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drinking.gif

If I am Nix I fight for Jefferson.
 
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I just plunked down my money to see some film.....

And I like Brad Jefferson on offense. Damn, does he have break away speed! He looked like Reggie Bush out there on the Dome turf. Catches passes real nice and makes a helluva lot of yards after the catch. He might not be a true running back but he would be a threat to go all the way any time he has the ball in his hands. A multi skilled offensive threat like Brad would be just what Tech's offense needs.

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Runs too tall for my liking. One of the Scout guys said on their board that he is really around 6-3 and 210 lbs. I much rather have him at LB. And I saw that video on him as well, and in my opinion he has great vertical speed, but his horizontal moves aren't really there to play the position in college, but again, that's just my opinion.

He looks like the second coming of Darryl Smith to me, and would you ever want to see Darryl play RB for the Jackets?
 
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gtownjacket: In my opinion 'wiggle' and 'juking' are overrated. Jonathan Dryer has alot of 'wiggle' and 'juking' ability but he won't be able to do that against a SEC or ACC defense.

From the tailback spot in the 'I' formation Jefferson would just have to see the hole and hit it. His ability to get out of the backfield from a wingback position and catch passes....which I saw alot of....could put a helluva lot of pressure on any defense.

It is a nice problem to have. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drinking.gif
 
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Barrel: I don't want a back who runs east-west. I want one who runs north-south. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drinking.gif
 
I agree with BOR he does run too upright. That fine for high school but not for college. He will make a great college lb.
 
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Barrel: I don't want a back who runs east-west. I want one who runs north-south. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drinking.gif

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That's great SLJ, but if you cannot make horizontal moves in college, then your useless at the position. I want a kid to run North south too, but the funny thing about football is typically there are a few people standing in your way when you run north/south. If he was 240 lbs ala a 6-3 back, then I got no problem with what you are saying.

He is a LB all the way at the college level, and that is just my opinion. But it does seem to be shared by more than a few scouts as they all list him as a LB and the colleges seem to be recruiting him for LB.

I say that because while you are right that he is a north, south runner, he is a speed back and he doesn't punish people while they are running. Speed backs need to have the ability to cut the corner, change direction, etc. While he has that ability, I just don't think its as natural as the RB's we are recruiting.

Now if you want to see a kid that was recruited to play RB or LB, go look at Quincy Kelly, and if he's not a RB all the way in the mold of a faster PJ Daniels, then I'll be dammed. 6-1 225 lbs, punishes people when he runs. He's got a lot of speed, a lot of power, And seems to tote the rock with authority over finesse. I see Jefferson as a big finesse type back if he played RB, and I prefer the small finesse type backs and the big powerful type backs. But like I said, that's based on me looking at the Rivals and Scout tapes. And I'm no expert.
 
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6-3 and 210 lbs.

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That's a prototypical linebacker. With a lot of speed. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif
 
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Barrel: Every point you made in your last post I can make a counterpoint. Every thing you said a good back has to have so he does at linebacker.

Also, you started telling me what you like in a running back....i.e. backs who punish tacklers. While Jefferson may not fit your idea of a great back that doesn't mean he wouldn't be a great one. In all honesty I could care less if he punishes tacklers....not with the way he can get out and catch passes. He could punish entire defenses.

As for scouts....like GTDean said....think Tony Hollings....mistakes on where a athlete of Jefferson's(and Hollings) ability is easily misplaced.

Nevertheless, it is a great problem to have.

Too bad all of y'all are wrong and me and GTDean are right! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rockon.gif
 
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Very true SLJ. But I don't see the comparison to Hollings. Hollings has Barry Sanders like moves and ran short to the ground. He was 5-11 and ran smaller. Jefferson runs too tall for me to say he would make a good RB at the college level. Now with his speed and quickness to get to a point (much like Hollings) this is ideal for a LB to hit the point of attack, fill the hole, or get to the outside, hence why I think he's much more suited for LB.

And since you just paid for the online service, you will enjoy the video on Quincy Kelly. It amazes me he was as under the radar for as long as he was. Check it out, it will get you really stoked about our RB class from 2006.
 
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We got two strong running backs in Evans and Kelly in the 2006 class. Those two along with Choice and Grant gives us 4 very good options. If we get Roddy Jones to go with them we will be in good shape.
 
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Barrel: Apologies for not making it clearer. I wasn't saying that Jefferson reminds me of Hollings style wise.

Just using him as an illustration that scouts and coaches can initially make a mistake on which side of the ball to place a multiskilled prospect.

In all honesty, how can a championship hurdler run too high?
 
Regardless of which side of the ball he ends ...

Up on, I predict he will be rated as a 4 star recruit by
Scout & a 3 star by Rivals. Then the folks on the hive will
all count him as a 4 star & the BO people will again
chastise Chan for not being able to recruit anyone over a
3 star.

As we were all saying, good problem to have.
 
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In all honesty, how can a championship hurdler run too high?

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Well, considering he's gotta jump really high to get over the hurdles, I would say he would naturally run high. Good running backs in my opinion all have one very common theme: They all have a low, powerful center of gravity. The ones that don't like Hershel Walker, Eddie George, and I'll even throw Musa Smith in here, carried a lot of weight and what they lacked in breakaway speed, they made up for by hitting people and holes like a freight train. I don't see Jefferson as that type of back. Hence, why i think he runs high, but lacks the tangibles that make high runners produce on the field.

Now at LB, he can see the hole and hit it with a quick burst of speed. Or get to the point of attack prior to the RB. That's where I see his talents are, and that's probably why he will be rated a 4 star LB.
 
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Barrel: Hurdlers don't jump. They clear the hurdles in stride and with a lean.
 
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The only time they lean is when they hit the hurdle. In between the hurdles they run upright.
 
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The only time they lean is when they hit the hurdle. In between the hurdles they run upright.

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Thats what I said.
 
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The only time they lean is when they hit the hurdle. In between the hurdles they run upright.

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Exactly. Why the hell are we arguing this point? You run upright, you run high. Pretty simple stuff. Upright runners typically don't make good RB's.
 
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Barrel: Not too simple for us not to have a reason to talk about it.
 
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