Call me an idiot, but I think most of the comments on ST are off base.

beej67

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Lot of people talking about 'not quitting.'

Lot of people talking about 'intensity.'

Lot of people talking about 'inspiration.'

Lot of people talking about 'motivation.'

Lot of people talking about 'leadership.'

Lot of people using a lot of different buzzwords that sound like an idiot ESPN announcer.


I don't think we've quit yet, I think our intensity is fine, I think we're playing inspired ball, we're motivated, and we have good team leaders. I think we've got all the intangibles down pat. I think our problem is tangibles.

You know, things like catching passes, fielding punts, making blocks, reading blocks, throwing passes on target. Tackling, being in position, staying in lanes. Things like strength, size, maybe speed at certain positions. Tangibles.

Yeah, I complained about Tenuta's poor rock-paper-scissor skills in first quarters this year, but past that I think the coaching's been fine, the motivation's been fine, the team has looked mature in demeanor and effort. They're just not playing football particularly well once the ball is snapped.
 
I'm not arguing about coaches or responsibilities. The coaches job is to fix whatever causes us to lose, whatever that problem is, whether it's leadership or inspiration or arm strength or too much booze the night before. That's not what I'm saying at all. Before the coach fixes the problem, he has to clearly identify what the problem actually is.

Since Armchair Coaching is 95% of all discussion board arguments, I posted this thread to say you guys have got it all wrong. In my opinion, we're plenty inspired, plenty intense, plenty motivated, and focusing on better pregame speeches isn't going to help us win more games. I think we need to focus on catching the damn football.
 
beej67 said:
I don't think we've quit yet, I think our intensity is fine, I think we're playing inspired ball, we're motivated, and we have good team leaders. I think we've got all the intangibles down pat. I think our problem is tangibles.

You know, things like catching passes, fielding punts, making blocks, reading blocks, throwing passes on target. Tackling, being in position, staying in lanes. Things like strength, size, maybe speed at certain positions. Tangibles.
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Seriously --no, this team hasn't quit --they're playing hard, playing with intensity --I don't know if they think they are better than they actually are --I have felt some Tech teams of the past have played with a 'we're #15 mentality' after being ranked, only to get knocked off the following week --but I don't have that feeling about this team.

With most tangibles --it's the responsibility of the player to do what he's coached to do --catch the pass, field the punt, block, tackle, be in position, etc. The tangibles become the responsibility of the coaches when the same mistakes are being made without correction --without changing up the personnel to get a guy in there who will block, tackle, get in position, etc.
 
When Fridge was hired at MD, he told the team the first thing he was going to teach them was how not to lose. That is what we need on defense. Practice shedding blocks and wrapping up.
 
beej67 said:
I don't think we've quit yet, I think our intensity is fine, I think we're playing inspired ball, we're motivated, and we have good team leaders. I think we've got all the intangibles down pat. I think our problem is tangibles.

You know, things like catching passes, fielding punts, making blocks, reading blocks, throwing passes on target. Tackling, being in position, staying in lanes. Things like strength, size, maybe speed at certain positions. Tangibles.
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Wow beej, this might be the absolute worst post I've seen you make. The first paragraph and the second paragraph are complete contradictions.

I'll ask this question:

IF we are playing inspired ball, and IF we are motivated, and IF we have good team leaders, and IF we have all the intangibles, then WHY are we not catching passes, and WHY are we not fielding punts, and WHY are we making costly penalties, and WHY are we not in position, and WHY are we not tackling, and WHY are we not making blocks?

The only answer to this question is that we do NOT have the talent to compete, and by our own coaches preseason admission this has been the most experienced talented team he has had. Hell, its not hard to see that, so it makes your entire above statement completely bogus.
 
Wow beej, this might be the absolute worst post I've seen you make. The first paragraph and the second paragraph are complete contradictions.
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Not really. The first is about intangibles and the second is about tangibles.

The solution to fixing problems in 'intensity' and 'motivation' and 'inspiration' is better pregame speeches and team meetings and prayer and all that crap. The solution to holding blocks (and beating blocks) is to run Middle Drill for an hour a day over the next week.
 
BarrelORum said:
Wow beej, this might be the absolute worst post I've seen you make. The first paragraph and the second paragraph are complete contradictions.

I'll ask this question:

IF we are playing inspired ball, and IF we are motivated, and IF we have good team leaders, and IF we have all the intangibles, then WHY are we not catching passes, and WHY are we not fielding punts, and WHY are we making costly penalties, and WHY are we not in position, and WHY are we not tackling, and WHY are we not making blocks?

The only answer to this question is that we do NOT have the talent to compete, and by our own coaches preseason admission this has been the most experienced talented team he has had. Hell, its not hard to see that, so it makes your entire above statement completely bogus.
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BOR - I can give a real life example of what he's talking about. Early in the game, Shane Bowen took a bad angle and overran a tackle where Pearman cut back and got an additional 10 or so yards and a 1st down. Did Bowen quit on the play? No. Was he giving less than full effort? No. Did he make a mistake that hurt the team? Yes.

We can complain about a lot of things with this team - I haven't seen any signs of quitting or lack of effort. Lots of mental mistakes, mostly by guys that haven't played many minutes of collegiate football (some by guys that have played many minutes).
 
Call you an idiot? Never.

It is true that we are searching for answers. It is also true that we are amateurs in the examination process. That is why we have coaches who are supposedly professionals.

Who can dispute that if we cut out the errors we would be a whole lot better team and would chalk up more wins? We need to catch the ball. True. We need to wrap up our tackles. True. We need to follow the snap count. True. We need to hold on to the ball. True.

So why aren't we doing these things? Still searching.
 
What I always hear the announcers talking about after a perennial Top 10 team loses is about how they need to get their swagger back. Now I never hear these same annoucers talk about swagger after a team like GT loses so clearly swagger is something possessed only by the elite teams. I think everyone here can agree that we would like to see GT make that jump from mediocrity to being one of the elite teams in college football so the answer is clear. We need to come up with a way to develop swagger and it all starts with teaching good, solid swagger fundamentals.

That's why I am calling on Chan Gailey to hire world's first fulltime Swagger Coordinator and I have the perfect candidate. No man personifies or knows the in's and out's swagger better than this man or is more qualified teach our young men the techniques that are going to give us the swagger we need to get to the next level. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair.

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Clearly, the Swagger Coordinator could not sit in the coach's box. This would be an on the field coach. The only special consideration that would need to be made is that he would wear a white and gold rhinestone sequined robe instead of the standard golf shirt for other assistant coaches.

The Swagger Coordinator would be in charge of the team's entrance from music selection, special effects, etc.... The Swagger Coordinator would also assist players in devolping signature post play moves. Sure it is exciting to watch Philip Wheeler sack the QB, but where's the swagger in that. What if after sacking the QB, he gets up and does the "Wheel of Doom", Adamm Oliver could do his "Machine Gun", Michael Jonson could "Freak", or Robo could do the "Robot". These signatures moves would serve a vital role in turning otherwise average looking plays into Sports Center Moments. Once we have all this swagger working for us there is no way they can keep us out of the Top 10.

I don't know if you guys like this idea or not, but you better love it because it's the best thing going today....

Woooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Do I smell smoke?

If you want to BE the man, you've got to BEAT the man. Wooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
"Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!"
 
"Space Mountain might be the oldest ride in the park, but it also has the longest line."
 
JTS said:
What I always hear the announcers talking about after a perennial Top 10 team loses is about how they need to get their swagger back. Now I never hear these same annoucers talk about swagger after a team like GT loses so clearly swagger is something possessed only by the elite teams. I think everyone here can agree that we would like to see GT make that jump from mediocrity to being one of the elite teams in college football so the answer is clear. We need to come up with a way to develop swagger and it all starts with teaching good, solid swagger fundamentals.

That's why I am calling on Chan Gailey to hire world's first fulltime Swagger Coordinator and I have the perfect candidate. No man personifies or knows the in's and out's swagger better than this man or is more qualified teach our young men the techniques that are going to give us the swagger we need to get to the next level. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair.

wwf%20ric%20flair.jpg


Clearly, the Swagger Coordinator could not sit in the coach's box. This would be an on the field coach. The only special consideration that would need to be made is that he would wear a white and gold rhinestone sequined robe instead of the standard golf shirt for other assistant coaches.

The Swagger Coordinator would be in charge of the team's entrance from music selection, special effects, etc.... The Swagger Coordinator would also assist players in devolping signature post play moves. Sure it is exciting to watch Philip Wheeler sack the QB, but where's the swagger in that. What if after sacking the QB, he gets up and does the "Wheel of Doom", Adamm Oliver could do his "Machine Gun", Michael Jonson could "Freak", or Robo could do the "Robot". These signatures moves would serve a vital role in turning otherwise average looking plays into Sports Center Moments. Once we have all this swagger working for us there is no way they can keep us out of the Top 10.

I don't know if you guys like this idea or not, but you better love it because it's the best thing going today....

Woooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've never read a post and been inspired in all my life.....until that. That is going on the desktop. Probably the best post I've seen in all my years surfing sports forums. Kudos.
 
BarrelORum said:
Wow beej, this might be the absolute worst post I've seen you make. The first paragraph and the second paragraph are complete contradictions.

I'll ask this question:

IF we are playing inspired ball, and IF we are motivated, and IF we have good team leaders, and IF we have all the intangibles, then WHY are we not catching passes, and WHY are we not fielding punts, and WHY are we making costly penalties, and WHY are we not in position, and WHY are we not tackling, and WHY are we not making blocks?

The only answer to this question is that we do NOT have the talent to compete, and by our own coaches preseason admission this has been the most experienced talented team he has had. Hell, its not hard to see that, so it makes your entire above statement completely bogus.
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OR it could mean that inexperience is showing OR that we are not working on the right things in practice. While overall this may be an experienced team there are many in key positions who are inexperienced: Bebe, Dwyer (tho no complaints here), Grant (he's forgotten its been so long), TB, Peek, Smith. On the D side its the corners (which we all said at the beginning of the year was a big worry) but I am amazed our Strong Safety can not cover a tight end (which was usually the match up). Its the lineman who seem to have actually deskilled from last season, even tho AJ Smith is pretty green and showing it. Shane Bowen....
 
JTS.... funniest post ever. We need to show a classic Ric Flair clip on the jumbo tron right before toe meets leather.

Also, I want to see a diagram of the Wheel of Doom.

I had a wrestling move for Superflai Anoai his sophomore season. It was something along the lines of my arms being the profile of a volcano and my head a lava burst. I need a new move. There was a lot of shaking and exploding. Surely I lost some braincells performing, but hey, why not, it was a sack.
 
We need to show a classic Ric Flair clip on the jumbo tron right before toe meets leather.
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There is only one way to make this happen.

MASSIVE, GLOBAL, BOARD-WIDE EMAIL CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING STINGTALK, BUZZOFF, AND THE HIVE.

Actually, that still probably won't do it. It'd probably at a minimum take coordination with the students somehow.
 
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