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techfowl

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Can\'t say I\'m surprised

Clemson's strengths match with our weaknesses.

What I expected was about what happened, but there was a whole lot more of it than what I expected.

We should fair well against poor passing teams, but we'll be in for a long season if we don't get this straightened out.

A couple of people laughed at me when I said Auburn had good success passing on us, but they really did a lot right. Go watch the tape again and see just how many times they negated their own first downs after good passes with holding calls and such.

We haven't stopped the pass all year, no matter the team. I just kept waiting for a team to figure out what BYU proved at the beginning of the season.

I still believe we can win a lot of games, but we've got to fix this fiasco in a hurry.
 
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Ding, Ding

We have a winner. BYU exposed our defense. Maybe Auburn and FSU just thought they could run all over us and tried to keep their gameplan very vanilla. FSU made the adjustments in the second half and apparently Bobby passed them along to Tommy.
 
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Techfowl, I agree with all of your post except still winning a lot of games.

I learned a lot last night that "football coach"
type of people already knew. That is, when an offense spreads the field with multiple receivers and forces the defense to play nickel most of the game, either the down linemen must provide a rush or the dbs better be able to cover.
When you can't do either, its over. Any opposing coach that decides to allow our lbs to primarily play the run, should be fired at halftime.

I knew we had problems on the defensive line. Now I better understand how devastating the problem is.
 
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When is Tenuta going to start taking some heat for his inability to adjust to the opposing offense? We didn't do it at BYU, didn't against Clemson, and last year against Wake, I thought he must have been asleep! I know he doesn't have as much to work with as he'd like, but our starters are not bad (see the game against Auburn and FSU) He needs a Plan B that works when his Plan A doesn't work.
 
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Yeah, he should be going into a game with quite a few alternative plans.

Mark Richt - hate him or like him - he's good - always spend most of his first plays of the game - offensively and defensively - running preset formations just to see how the opposing teams respond.

He runs the plays and formations that match up well after that. As soon as they adjust, he goes to the next best plan - and so on and so on.

He also gives his QB's a test before each game on film, formations, plays, defenses, audibles, and so on. He says that he never fails to be surprised at what a great QB like Greene (and Shockley) did or did not get - contrary to what he thought he saw the week before in practice.

He removes all the plays and formations from the game plan for all areas the QB did not excell in. This increases the success rate for obvious reasons.

We should do this. I'm not talking about doing woof woof at a game. I'm talking about someting that makes good coaching sense.

We also need to put our reserve linemen on a sled until they throw up Monday through Wednesday. Even if they don't get the schemes too well when they sub, they could at least hold their own on straight ahead blocking.

Back to defense. We do seem to just fall apart on adjustments.

We know our run defense works, but we have a hard time defending the run and pass simultaneously. We basicly have been lucky that our run defense was enough to get to the QB when he passed, before he passed.

When the QB gets the pass off we change our defense to the pass and we don't adequately defend either one.

We have a bunch of run stopping DB's for all practical purposes. Reuben is the only one I'm very comfortable against the pass right now.

We clearly had some communication errors between the LB's and DB's on the first couple of TD's. Both thought they could let the deep man go until it was too late.

We gave up the last second quarter touchdown because we were waiting for the clock to wind down and Tommy saw it.

The only two people I saw run on to the field before the game with any enthusiasm were a couple of the true freshmen. None of the excitement from the previous games.

Clemson wanted that game and we didn't. That's the biggest factor here. The X's and O's mattered, but not as much as the enthusiasm level.

I will say - the chicken and the egg thing - I don't know if the fans weren't as fired up because the players didn't seem to care or the other way around. We didn't give them a lot to work with, but again - also the other way around.

We stunk as a supporting crowd. I think the last 2-3 weeks have taken so much out of the team and the fans that the intensity just wasn't there on either side.

We as a crowd were just as flat as the team was.
 
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I cannot remember a GT team that was effective stopping a good passing team, or an avg. passing team. We never have had corners that could cover, much less intercept. Before that can happen, however, our pass rush must be effective or the corners are on an island. Without pressure, any qb can pick us apart.

This is not something new for Tech.
 
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Sorry, saw Mark R's name there: he lost yesterday also and he has the cream of the Georgia crop and a whale of a coaching staff. Yet he LOST yesterday also. No denigration intended!!!, just an interpretive thought of intervention!!!!!!!
 
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Tenuta is the highest paid assistant in the ACC - $225,000 per year.

He should be the man.

That being said - the difference between a guy like Ray Goff and Bobby Bowden is that Ray didn't know enough to take the game plan away from his assistants, particularly on defense. He would almost just yell, "Try harder!"

Bobby and Lou Holtz, on the other hand will at some point say, "Nope. My team, my responsibility, this is the plan."

That is why everybody is on Gailey's butt for this one. Tenuta is responsible, but Gailey is the guy making enough to buy five houses in my neighborhood every year.

Tenuta's defense has been better than Gailey's offense though. The points scored by FSU, BYU, and Auburn should have been wins (for us) with most offenses. Clemson was a complete fiasco.

I'm a fan of both these guys, but I have more reservations after this game. I'm going to wait a few games before I judge the total package too harshly.

The only good thing is that this game may have brought Reggie's mouth back to earth. I like the kid and we're lucky to have him, but he has twice given opposing locker rooms plenty to post.

1. If they run zone, I'll pick them apart. If they play man, I'll run all over them. I bring every thing to the table.

2. I'll tell you one thing. We won't lose another game.

We don't need any more of that stuff.
 
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Techsamillion - point taken.

My contention is that idea is a good one. That was one part I like out of many more in the package that I may like or not.

I can admire the way Deion Sanders plays without thinking he's the guy I want my kids to emulate.

Anyway, those guys are playing good football. David Greene has never had more dropped balls than yesterday. He absolutely was putting them on the money and they were dropped.

Why am I defending UGA? I hate those guys too - but you can't argue with whether or not their on the field system is working, especially based on one game. They dominated LSU yesterday like we did FSU last year, and that's their worst performance in a while.
 
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As a Gailey supporter, as long as he is coach at G.T., I too was mighty dissapointed at his offence. I cannot help, however, remembering the pitful display of our defense. Who is to blame" D?O?Gailey?Tanuta>....Dang, I do not know. There is this that is Know: I was hurting mightily after the first half and on through last night's game. I left the stands and sat outside the stadium, wathing ticket payers (mostly Tech) file out. \
SOMETHING is wrong: I say, let's get it fixed. I am still not for firing Gailey. It is much more complex than that. Only simple (football) minds would even suggest such a thing. Maybe the coaching staff needs to work longer and more diligently. Maybe they need to do things a different way. Maybe, maybe......on and on. But something needs to change. I still stand by S.Gailey. Jesus once asked his disciples about their allegiance: they replied, but to whom shall we go (paraphrase). Hey folks, the season is in full swing......stand by our folks: coaches and players. You may be dissapointed; God knows I was last night. But stick with the person(s) hired, untill they are no longer the persons you hired. It is total crap to change horses in the middle of the stream, and it is equal crap to now help your horses when the wagon gets heavy. My daddy used to say, "It is time for some to hop of the wagon". He meant, it is time for some to push instead of being a burden. We can still come out of this and be all that our hearts desire. For the faint-hearted, I say "link up with Oklahoma"or someone else. At least for the time being. For now if you cannot stand 100% for Tech from water boy to Head Coach, then find someone to your liking. If you are a true Tech Fan, hop off the wagon and help us push.
Push forward, stand for Tech, at all costs, bona fide.........or change your puny allegiance permanently. I have no problem if one desires to forsake TEch for another team at this time. Okay, it your priviledge. But just quit dragging down and demoralizing me, other boosters, the players, and a coaches. Dura lex, sed lex.
 
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Techs, all the noise about getting rid of Braine is "pushing the wagon".
 
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Thanks, sounds good to me (even though I am an outsider).....you gys knows best and most absolute. I most of the time just tag along and none are "castaways" for me, since I speak to and hear noone. Respect all you gy's opinions as a "third-wheel", not in the know.
 
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Techsamillion

I'm with you. I just want the staff we have to get our guys in a little better shape and play the freshmen when we can.

I don't know who it was that said there are no original thoughts left in football - all the good coaches are just quicker to copy the new things. There's nothing wrong with emulating success.

A suggestion on what I'd like to see does not mean I don't support the coach. Most of my previous posts reflect that I am a Chan supporter.

By the way - were you sitting in Sec 223 on Saturday?
 
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techfowl
Sorry, Can't find my stub, but some kind G.T. guy sold me a ticket for $20 and I was third from the top on about the 40yd line. My daughter and wife were across the way on the West Side, Row 32, Sec 110. It was first experience in the upper east.
 
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