Clemson or South Carolina?

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I am surprised that Vegas has the Clemson or South Carolina game as a pick/even. I think Clemson will roll over Spurrier. I hate the sec and I hate Clemson. Since they both can’t lose I guess I want ACC over sec. What do you think?
 
I hope Clemson destroys them, making our pending demolition look that much better!
 
Clementine and it shouldn't be close at all. The roosters have only won twice at home vs Clemson in the last 30 years (2-13).
 
I hope CJ Spiller runs til his legs fall off. And I hope that the local witchdoctors at Clemson can't figure out how to put them back on.
 
Why exactly hasn't SC been good? I'm young so I don't remember much outside of the 00's but I don't know of them being good EVER. What's their problem? They're in the SEC, in the middle of the south and Spurrier is their coach.
 
yellajacketkid said:
Why exactly hasn't SC been good? I'm young so I don't remember much outside of the 00's but I don't know of them being good EVER. What's their problem? They're in the SEC, in the middle of the south and Spurrier is their coach.
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They have an all time winnin record below .500. They have never been good. They ride white knuckled on the coattails of the rest of the SEC. Most fans of sec schools will eventually concede that the sec isn't THAT much better than other conferences. Usce fans will fight you to the death on it bc if they admit that then they are subsequently having to admit their own mediocrity.

There's a funny post that floats around clemson boards this time of year regarding the "history" of usce. I'll see if I can dig it up.
 
My money would be on Clemson. And I'd like to see them win because if we win, it'll make the ACCCG that much more high profile.
 
yellajacketkid said:
Why exactly hasn't SC been good? I'm young so I don't remember much outside of the 00's but I don't know of them being good EVER. What's their problem? They're in the SEC, in the middle of the south and Spurrier is their coach.
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Since you are from Georgia, I'll use a comparison to partly answer the question. Columbia makes Macon look like New York City. It is an absolute armpit. It has no redeeming features that I can find. None. The school has a few very good programs, but on the whole is exceptionally mediocre. No young, testosterone filled football player that could play anywhere else would go there.

But that's just part of the reason.

Climpsun should splatter them this weekend.
 
This is from the Columbia newspaper a couple years back: (it is NOT tongue in cheek)

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Here's the post: (it's long, but worth a read) I hate south carolina. Not really sure why. But I do.

All time best SC article....

This is South Carolina Football
There has been a document floating around Clemson circles called "This is South Carolina Football". I've decided to post it here. However, I've taken out any statements that I could not verify online. If you have others to add, please leave a comment and the URL proof. I don't want to slander them. I just want to present the facts.

So, going into the 2004 football season...

History
The University of South Carolina began playing football in 1892. Since then, they have had an all-time winning percentage under .500, which ranks 92nd all-time in D-1A football...only 25 programs have been worse. A few of the notable football programs who have been better than the Gamecocks include such powerhouses as: Duke, Western Michigan, Tulsa, Toledo, Navy, UAB, Central Florida, Ball St., North Texas, Nevada, East Carolina, Houston, Northern Illinois, Utah St., San Jose St., Vanderbilt, Akron, Baylor, UNLV, Kansas, and Rutgers just to name a few. This is South Carolina Gamecock football.

Since the Associated Press began ranking football teams in 1936, the Gamecocks have finished in the top 20 of the rankings only five times. Carolina has never finished in the Top 10 of a major recognized poll. South Carolina won its first bowl game 103 years after they started playing football. In over 100 seasons of football, Carolina has yet to participate in one of the "Big 5" Bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton). As Carolina is set to begin this season of collegiate football, they have won 10 or more games in a single season once. Since 1892, South Carolina has had only 42 winning seasons and 52 losing seasons. This is South Carolina Gamecock football.

South Carolina has had 32 different head coaches in its storied tradition...only five of them stayed longer than 5 seasons, 21 of them have losing records. Of the 56 programs which have played more than 1000 games all-time, only four have scored fewer points than South Carolina in their schools history. This is the tradition of South Carolina Gamecock football.

Conference Play
In the 50+ seasons Carolina has been affiliated with a conference, they have won that conference once...the ACC in 1969, with a 7-4 record. Since joining the SEC in 1992, Carolina has had a winning record in the conference twice (2000 and 2001). In the twelve seasons as a member of the SEC, Carolina boasts a conference record of 35-68-1...only two teams have been worse: Kentucky has 27 wins, Vanderbilt 12. Although Carolina has yet to finish in the top two of the Eastern division, they have finished last twice (1998 and 1999). Carolina has yet to win six conference games in a season. And no one should forget the fact that Carolina went two consecutive seasons without winning one conference game, not one (1998 and 1999). Carolina had an impressive string of 21 consecutive games with a loss snapped in 2000 by beating New Mexico State (then let the rest of the country know what Carolina football was all about by tearing down the goal-posts). Since 1992, only three times has any non-probation member of the conference failed to win two or more games overall in a season...South Carolina has accomplished this feat twice, Kentucky once. Since 1992, only once has a conference member failed to win a game overall in a single season...you guessed it, South Carolina. South Carolina’s all-time record versus other current conference members is even more impressive: 2-9 vs Alabama, 4-8 vs Arkansas, 1-4-1 vs Auburn, 3-18-3 vs Florida, 13-41-2 vs Georgia, 8-6-1 vs Kentucky, 2-14-1 vs LSU, 5-7 vs Ole Miss, 5-6 vs Mississippi St., 2-18-2 vs Tennessee, and 11-2 vs Vanderbilt. That’s correct, Carolina leads the all-time series against 2 SEC teams...Kentucky and Vanderbilt. This is South Carolina Gamecock football.

South Carolina vs. Others
The comparison of only 12 seasons in one conference does no justice to the tradition of South Carolina football. So lets compare the Gamecocks record versus D-1A schools they have played 30 or more times: 35-62-4 vs Clemson, 13-41-2 vs Georgia, 33-21-2 vs Wake Forest, 24-27-4 vs NC State, 16-34-4 vs North Carolina, 17-24-3 vs Duke, and 20-13-1 vs Virginia. That’s correct, Carolina leads the all-time series against 2 of these 11 teams...Virginia and Wake Forest. This is South Carolina Gamecock football.

Last 10 Years
But all this tradition and past records are meaningless. What is more important is the recent history. Only losers live in the past. We are in the best years of Carolina Gamecock football, and the future has never been brighter...or has it? For perspective, let's look at the last ten years...Carolina is coming off another losing season, the 6th in the last 10 seasons. Overall record since Lou Holtz became Head Coach is 27-32 (.458). Since 1994 they are 50-64. Remarkably, Carolina has finished in the Top 25 twice in the last 10 seasons and been won all three bowl games in that span. But before you get too excited, remember these are the only 3 bowl games they've EVER won. The three seasons they've allowed the most points all came within the last 10 years. This is South Carolina Gamecock football.

The 2002 season marked a significant time in South Carolina Gamecock football history. On November 9, South Carolina was defeated by Arkansas giving South Carolina their 500th loss in history. Currently there are 16 members of the elite "500 Club", five of them with better win percentages than the Gamecocks (Virginia, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Kansas, and Rutgers). In the middle of the season, the Gamecocks were within 1 game of reaching .500 winning percentage at 489-490-44. What would they do? Could USC reach the elusive benchmark of minimal mediocrity? No. They lost five straight to close the season at 5-7 and miss the post season by one game. This is South Carolina Gamecock football.

The Gamecocks fell to 0-9 the last two years in games that could've gained them a bowl bid. The final defeat was a humiliating trouncing at home to their arch-rival Clemson 63-17. Many records were set or tied in the "rivalry" game including most points scored by a team. Coach Holtz said afterwards that he's "embarrassed like I've never been before"...

This is South Carolina Gamecock Football.
 
actually USCe had a couple of good teams in the '80s, and once were ranked #1 before losing to Navy and Clemson. I've always liked them, but I used to live in the state.
 
USCe will be lucky to score ten points and Clemson is good for at least 24.
 
Well, along with being a GT fan, I am also a Gamecock fan and although it hurts to see your predictions, I know they are true. I bet Clemson over Carolina. Even if Carolina were doing well right now, Clemson seems to always have our number. I just hope it's not a blow-out.
 
84 Civil said:
I am surprised that Vegas has the Clemson or South Carolina game as a pick/even. I think Clemson will roll over Spurrier. I hate the sec and I hate Clemson. Since they both can’t lose I guess I want ACC over sec. What do you think?
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Clemson owns the Lamecocks.
 
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