Coach David Kelley, #1 TE leave Duke

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Seems that HC Roof of Duke is having a tough time hanging on to coaches & players. WR Coach & Associate HC, David Kelley, is leaving to 'pursue other interests'. He interviewed for a job with HC Larry Coker @ Miami. U would think that Kelley would have a job real soon. What a recruiter!

Coach David Kelley looking for work

Duke's Team Captain, #1 TE &amp; leading receiver is leaving the Duke program for his <u>Senior</u> yr to play @ Div 1aa Delaware. Strange, very strange.

Ben Patrick to play @ Delaware
 
He gets the kids there but when they see how things really are at Duke they transfer out. Patrick is not the first.
 
Coach Kelly being a good recruiter is a myth. He does not close deals. He could not recruit Georgia because the high school coaches here did not like him when he was at Dunwoody, nor when he was at UGA.

About the biggest recruit he got for us was Brian Lumar, whom he offered only to get his cousin who was an All-American DT. The DT then committed to Texas A&amp;M after Lumar committed to GT. Great read Coach....we were used. The other Lousiana kids were all either directly recruited and closed by Doug Marrone, or were set up by Marrone before his departure one month prior to signing day.

Coach Kelly never closed anyone in the state of Georgia for us.

During their time the following coaches had these areas:
Roof, Spence, New, and Thompson had Georgia.
O'Brien and Marrone were national recruiters.
Anselmno had the northeast
Casullo had Florida
Danny Smith had South Carolina
 
The two new coaches and the new administrative assistant are all good recruiters. The prerequisite for coaching at Tech now is that you must be a good recruiter.
 
It just got A LOT better. Wilson and Robinson were not helping matters.

Giff Smith (great recruiter) will have the title but Geoff Collins (another great one; a hustler) will do most of the leg work outside of the home visits.

Brian Jean-Marie does a fantastic job.

I have talked to a couple of people that have met, or know, Jeep Hunter and Charles Kelly and they nothing but great things about their intensity, recruiting work ethic, ability to relate to kids, etc.

Recruiting is just like sales...it requires a lot of hustle and attention to detail. These guys give us 5 on staff that can really do it.

Coach D has also done surpisingly well at recruiting for us as he seems to make certain kids really believe. He is a trustworthy guy that kids trust.

Modkins has struggled mostly because he has had a tough area in Texas. That is why he is moving to Florida nad Georgia for his areas and will do a fantastic job.

Nix is a good recruiter, but spends far less time doing it. I hope we see more from him this year, and he will hit metro Atlanta. However, the coordinator on the other side of the ball does not recruit either.

Geis has not shown the ability to close a lot of deals. He has gotten his share, but has also probably led us a little too long on some kids we were just not going to get. We need to get a better read on these early in the game. This is just my opinion.

We are pounding Georgia hard with many more coaches this year. That should help.
 
Re: recruiting

This may be beating a dead horse but, Georgia has one of the top recruiting bases in the country. I played tennis at GT in the mid to late 1980's. In tennis, Georgia is considered to have the 4th best junior players behind California, Flordia, and Texas. And the state of Georgia has only two Division I schools to split these prosepects between. The other states have multiple schools. Other states with decent recruiting bases, such as North Carolina, have the multiple school problem too.

States like Arkansas, South Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi don't produce nearly the number of good athletes, in any sport, that Georgia does. A good example is the example Butch Davis gives. He said the year he won the national championship at Miami, in football (1998?), Dade County produced 60 Division I football players (and neighboring Broward and Palm Beach Counties probably that many as well)whereas the entire state of Arkansas produced only 8! The Ole Miss', Miss State's, Arkansas', Kentucky's, Maryland's really are at a great disadvantage. Almost an insurmountable disadvantage. If GT was in Mississippi we would be another Vanderbilt. If the University of Miami was in Missouri it wouldn't win five football games a year.

Because of GT's prime location, we should be able to produce winning programs in almost every sport. Georgia is one of the top four or five recruiting bases for tennis, baseball, golf. And I would guess one of the top six or eight for football and basketball. If we were to make hockey a varsity sport we would be at a serious disadvantage due to being in Georgia because our recruiting base is probably in the bottom third in that sport.

To make a long story short, I would hope the GT football recruitng staff would be beating the bushes in Georgia and Florida first and foremost. It's fine to have someone in Texas but that should be down the list of priorities. Hopefully the football recruiting thing is working itself out. I sorry its taken four years to figure out...
 
Hivered - question about Kelly

I have heard both sides - that he was a fantastic recruiter and that he stunk. I have no personal knowledge so this is really a question.

If Kelly was as bad as you say - and he was doing this during the time that Roof was at GT as well - why would Roof hire Kelly? And not just as a coach but as assistant Head Coach?

Something about that doesn't make sense. Curious your view - or others views?
 
Re: recruiting

The new recruiting philosopy is to recruit closer to home now that there are more academically qualified players in the state. In the past few years Georgia has not been a good state for Tech to recruit in because of the lack of academically quaiified athletes. We have also begun to recruit well in the states of SC and Alabama. South Carolina may not be a top state for recruits but when you can get one or two top players out of the state each year has we have it doesn't hurt to recurit there based on the geographic proximity. Tennessee and North Carolina will be part of our new focus. Texas was a state we did well in because CCG and two of our assistants had backgrounds there from their pro days. Coach Modkins pulled in Jamal Evans from Texas this year and we have added other top recruits like K Mike, Rhodes, Elris, Sellers, etc. Grant, Garner, Scott, JJ, Oliver, Anaoi and Marius are examples of some of the top players we got out of Florida.
 
Re: recruiting

Trouble and controversy always seem to surround David Kelly.

Regardless of what type of recruiter he is, there is no doubt that he has left bad blood almost every where he he has left, and after this many times (consistently being disgruntled at a LOT of SHORT stints), you have to concede that the problem is indeed from his side, as opposed to 'all' the others. Unlikely that 'all' his stops have really been that bad, and the guy is always pointing a finger at someone.

I'm glad he's not here. I've always thought of him as a poor man's Rodney Garner (the bagman, if you didn't know). A guy that brings a lot, but with a cost to your reputability.

But even Rodney Garner at UGA has at least stayed in a place for a while, and has brought in a lot of great talent (not condoning the tactics or the man - just the results).

To have a guy like Rodney Garner, but who is not as effective or savvy is just not worth it. David Kelly is the Jeff George of assitant coaching, IMHO.
 
Kelly is an excellent WR and RB's coach. He can coach a position. It is just you cannot name players that he brought in.
 
I know one thing for sure......

DK and Dick Bestwick don't trade Christmas cards. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif
 
Re: recruiting

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But even Rodney Garner at UGA has at least stayed in a place for a while, and has brought in a lot of great talent (not condoning the tactics or the man - just the results).

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Techfowl,
Just curious...What is that Garner does that you do not condone? Aside from being a coach recruits seem to think a lot of, as evidenced by the players he seems to bring in, what do we know he is doing that is not to be admired?
Also, did you see this report on Dwyer? He really seems to like us:


"I went to Georgia last weekend and I went to Georgia Tech this visit."

He had a lot of good things to say about his visit to the flats.

"It is the best visit I have had yet. I really liked it over at Georgia Tech. I really like the way the coaches and the players talked to us and spent time with us. I spent a lot of time with Coach Curtis Modkins (Tech running backs coach) while visiting Tech. We had lunch together and it was great. They showed us a lot and I really liked the visit."


Think we have a shot?
 
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