Coaching risks
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Ideally, I would want to get rid now, but it would make getting good coach harder due to our "impatience". We have to wait another yr., IMO. It is hard to imagine what another school would do cause nothing this devastating has hit another school like this did Sat. that I know of.
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Beeware,
I am sick and tired of hearing your CRAP! The axe you are grinding ad nauseam is so dull. Your automatic response to anyone who disagrees is to call all a FOC'er. Friend, I am a friend of Tech. Chan Gailey is our Coach. He wanted to be here whereas O'Gone, Roof, and BOB could not get out of town fast enough. As for Mac, he was so danged over his head. The PLayers. I repeat, the Players won the Seattle Bowl. They rallied around Mac only because he was the only person who had not bailed on them. I tuned into Sting Talk to hopefully get some enlightnening info, some report about recruiting, and share the brotherhood of the Tech family. You and your type are behaving very badly. You do not offer any type of enlightened discourse. You only have one song. It has one verse and you are so far off key. Get a life!!! I am standing behind the institution, the tradition, the honor. If Gailey can right the ship, great. If not, he will be forced onto someone elses payroll. In the meantime, for the sake of Smith, Fox, Gathers and the other outstanding student athletes who put on the Gold and White, get behind them. Gailey is not going anywhere this year. So kwitcherbeliakin and do it for the kids.
I am sick and tired of hearing your CRAP! The axe you are grinding ad nauseam is so dull. Your automatic response to anyone who disagrees is to call all a FOC'er. Friend, I am a friend of Tech. Chan Gailey is our Coach. He wanted to be here whereas O'Gone, Roof, and BOB could not get out of town fast enough. As for Mac, he was so danged over his head. The PLayers. I repeat, the Players won the Seattle Bowl. They rallied around Mac only because he was the only person who had not bailed on them. I tuned into Sting Talk to hopefully get some enlightnening info, some report about recruiting, and share the brotherhood of the Tech family. You and your type are behaving very badly. You do not offer any type of enlightened discourse. You only have one song. It has one verse and you are so far off key. Get a life!!! I am standing behind the institution, the tradition, the honor. If Gailey can right the ship, great. If not, he will be forced onto someone elses payroll. In the meantime, for the sake of Smith, Fox, Gathers and the other outstanding student athletes who put on the Gold and White, get behind them. Gailey is not going anywhere this year. So kwitcherbeliakin and do it for the kids.
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1game@atime,
That's the way beeware is. He's going to turn every post into a bash Coach Gailey and/or bash Coach Braine post.
He posts everything he says as though it's fact. It's his opinion.
I've tried to get numerous people to post here on StingTalk, but many won't because of mainly beeware. It's not that his opinions are wrong. It's how he states them.
Read down the threads on this board. Read just the ones by beeware. They are all about the same with the same agenda as far as I'm concerned.
BTW, I come here for the same reason as you. Others do as well. The tent has not folded in the GT camp by any means. This constant bashing does the institute no good what so ever. Thanks for speaking your mind.
That's the way beeware is. He's going to turn every post into a bash Coach Gailey and/or bash Coach Braine post.
He posts everything he says as though it's fact. It's his opinion.
I've tried to get numerous people to post here on StingTalk, but many won't because of mainly beeware. It's not that his opinions are wrong. It's how he states them.
Read down the threads on this board. Read just the ones by beeware. They are all about the same with the same agenda as far as I'm concerned.
BTW, I come here for the same reason as you. Others do as well. The tent has not folded in the GT camp by any means. This constant bashing does the institute no good what so ever. Thanks for speaking your mind.
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Too premature to show a coach the door after his first year or during the season. "Now", would be during the season. I don't argue that things are not right. This does not prove that Coach Gailey isn't the man for the job. Nothing this season has because it's his first year. I think we would be IN MUCH GREATER RISK if we didn't allow Coach Gailey more time.
The situation at Maryland when Fridge took over and the situation in Miami when that coach took over are not the norms as far as success in coaches first years. People will say that this year is a total flop. I don't agree with that. Do I agree things didn't go as well as they could have or probably should have. Yes. I don't think there is any excuse for getting whipped like we did on Sat. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel with a brand new coach in my opinion. People will think my standards aren't high. That's your opinion. If you knew me well, you wouldn't think that at all. My standards are very high. I want GT to be the best in the classroom and on the football field.
I truly believe that even talk of showing Coach Gailey the door right now when recruiting season is really gearing up big time is a mistake, HUGE MISTAKE, especially when it's his first year. People think recruiting is going poorly. I don't feel that way at this point. In fact I'm excited about it. I'm pulling for the coaches to work their tails off to go get the football team a great class.
In my opinion it's a huge mistake not the show total support for our head coach. That doesn't mean we want things to stay as they are. That doesn't mean we don't want to move forward and build a winning program. It's too early not to show support for someone that hasn't been on the job a year. I think it would and is a huge mistake. Just my opinion.
Sorry techrod for getting off subject. We seem to be doing a lot of that around here. Most threads turn into bashing coaches and AD. Then it goes from there.
The situation at Maryland when Fridge took over and the situation in Miami when that coach took over are not the norms as far as success in coaches first years. People will say that this year is a total flop. I don't agree with that. Do I agree things didn't go as well as they could have or probably should have. Yes. I don't think there is any excuse for getting whipped like we did on Sat. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel with a brand new coach in my opinion. People will think my standards aren't high. That's your opinion. If you knew me well, you wouldn't think that at all. My standards are very high. I want GT to be the best in the classroom and on the football field.
I truly believe that even talk of showing Coach Gailey the door right now when recruiting season is really gearing up big time is a mistake, HUGE MISTAKE, especially when it's his first year. People think recruiting is going poorly. I don't feel that way at this point. In fact I'm excited about it. I'm pulling for the coaches to work their tails off to go get the football team a great class.
In my opinion it's a huge mistake not the show total support for our head coach. That doesn't mean we want things to stay as they are. That doesn't mean we don't want to move forward and build a winning program. It's too early not to show support for someone that hasn't been on the job a year. I think it would and is a huge mistake. Just my opinion.
Sorry techrod for getting off subject. We seem to be doing a lot of that around here. Most threads turn into bashing coaches and AD. Then it goes from there.
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Techrod,
Great question. Talk of firing Gailey now, much less doing it is VERY destructive to recruiting. He has not had enough time to implement his program. This season has served as a wake up call to him concerning the overall types and conditioning of the athletes he needs. Being annihilated by the doomsayers has to create doubt in the minds of recruits and their parents as to the stability of the program. The true Tech fans will put their past disappointments and frustrations over not getting the coach they may have wanted far, far behind them. True Tech fans will circle the wagons and look forward not backward. And yes, make no mistake I am talking about Beeware and his cadre.
Great question. Talk of firing Gailey now, much less doing it is VERY destructive to recruiting. He has not had enough time to implement his program. This season has served as a wake up call to him concerning the overall types and conditioning of the athletes he needs. Being annihilated by the doomsayers has to create doubt in the minds of recruits and their parents as to the stability of the program. The true Tech fans will put their past disappointments and frustrations over not getting the coach they may have wanted far, far behind them. True Tech fans will circle the wagons and look forward not backward. And yes, make no mistake I am talking about Beeware and his cadre.
I'm with GTT on this one. Firing a coach after one year will be much more devastating than giving Gailey a chance. I'm disappointed that he didn't realize that D1A football was as difficult as it is, but I've got to believe that this past weekend was a wake-up call.
It reminds me of a story I heard about an exec one time who lost his company a million dollars due to a stupid mistake. When the exec came into the CEO's office to offer his resignation the CEO said: "You can't quit. I just spent $1 million training you."
My point is that we just spent an entire year training Gailey on how difficult college football can be. Let's at least see if he learned anything before we go out and likely have to endure another "learning curve" coach. Now is the time for a true leader to step forward, admit that mistakes have been made and make positive changes. I believe that Gailey can be that true leader.
It reminds me of a story I heard about an exec one time who lost his company a million dollars due to a stupid mistake. When the exec came into the CEO's office to offer his resignation the CEO said: "You can't quit. I just spent $1 million training you."
My point is that we just spent an entire year training Gailey on how difficult college football can be. Let's at least see if he learned anything before we go out and likely have to endure another "learning curve" coach. Now is the time for a true leader to step forward, admit that mistakes have been made and make positive changes. I believe that Gailey can be that true leader.
If CG can right the wrongs and turn this around, just think how happy we will be this time next year! Firing after one yr does not make good sense to me.
I do not think we expected this yr to be a learning year, however. We were never led to believe that we would have a "transition" problem at all. Now that he has had his yr, let's just see what happens. If fired, we will never know. If no improvement this time next yr., he is gone, babee, gone!!
I do not think we expected this yr to be a learning year, however. We were never led to believe that we would have a "transition" problem at all. Now that he has had his yr, let's just see what happens. If fired, we will never know. If no improvement this time next yr., he is gone, babee, gone!!
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Beeware is 100% right. We supposedly hired someone with experience enough to take an experienced team and not have a "learning curve". Whoever thinks this guy earned his million bucks by posting the worst loss to Georgia in Georgia Tech history is a fool. I'm not sure what you guys are measuring success by, but this guy cannot coach - and I'm not talking about his win-loss record. Evidence poor clock management, numerous fumbles, dumb penalties, assinine personnel decisions, stupid play calling, etc. Time to get our money's worth. We are a laughingstock.
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before we fall further in respect, let him go now.
It really boils down to where he is on the learning curve and by what we saw Saturday, he is way down on it. I would not fire Gailey, I would fire Braine and maybe that lights a fire under Gailey to improve his performance. Hiring a coach so he could learn on the job was a "Braine" dead decision and the AD should pay for it.