CPJ and The Ceiling

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Disclaimer: This is not a fire CPJ thread. I’ve always loved CPJ. Still do. Don’t really want to see him fired.

But let me ask this: what do you think CPJ’s ceiling is at Tech? And what do you think Tech’s ceiling as a program is going forward? Do the two match up?

This is a tough question to think through. I think CPJ is a great coach who is strategically excellent and who’s won us more games than we should have given our roster.

But the thing is, he’s perennially responsible for who our roster is. Could one of these young coaches come in and light the place up (comparatively) on the recruiting trail? I’m honestly not sure, but I’m interested to hear your thoughts.
 
it’s been GT/Clemson/FSU as the best offenses in the ACC since CPJ got here. We’ve won a ton of games with terrible defenses. If we can get a consistently above-average defense then our realistic ceiling is a consistent 9/10 win team with a conference title / playoff push every 3 or 4 years.

That’s gonna take better DL recruiting though. Which has been a little better lately.
 
The ceiling is winning the whole thing. Any coach we could possibly get would have to catch lightning in a bottle to do it (great class that matures at the right time, special QB, luck, etc.). CPJ gives us a better chance than most, though probably not all potential coaches.

As for recruiting, we should see a bit of an uptick with the improvements to our image. Could any other coach recruit marginally better? Probably. Could anyone "light the place" up in recruiting right away, without serious institutional changes or a drastically different college football landscape? No way.
 
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EastboundJacket said:
Disclaimer: This is not a fire CPJ thread. I’ve always loved CPJ. Still do. Don’t really want to see him fired.

But let me ask this: what do you think CPJ’s ceiling is at Tech? And what do you think Tech’s ceiling as a program is going forward? Do the two match up?

This is a tough question to think through. I think CPJ is a great coach who is strategically excellent and who’s won us more games than we should have given our roster.

But the thing is, he’s perennially responsible for who our roster is. Could one of these young coaches come in and light the place up (comparatively) on the recruiting trail? I’m honestly not sure, but I’m interested to hear your thoughts.
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Where do we end up if we win every game? That's the ceiling.

Where is UCF's ceiling? Just below the CFP, apparently.
 
Disclaimer: This is not shitpost where I get all beta or go all IIWII.

But let me ask you this, will GT have the resources to keep anyone who lights the place up in recruiting and winning games?

Is this a tough concept to think through? I mean really, CPJ is never going to be the best that GT has ever had, and one day someone better will probably coach here. But how long will that better guy stay? Especially now that coordinators can apparently command nearly as much as GT pays for a HC?

Unless something big changes in how money affects CFB, I am relativley sure about what will happen when GT gets back on the coaching carousel. Additionally, I am not interested in rehashing this same old shit.


Other than this post, of course.


No need to do it, I will do it myself:
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Given the he got us to intraseason top 10 twice, and finished the season ranked #7 once, I think the ceiling is clearly the national championship.

Now, I think that's very unlikely to happen. But it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
 
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Clearly, the ceiling is beating Alabama on the final play of the championship game.
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I think Athens would just turn into a sinkhole to the center of the earth if we did that.
 
Nobody is going to tell me that the natty isn't CPJs ceiling.

1) Gt has 4 national championships

2) CPJ has twice had us in cfp/bcs discussions late in a season (09/14)
 
The ceiling is the National Championship. We've already seen offenses under CPJ that could get us there, all we need is a championship caliber defense to go with it; and have them both peak in the same year.

Those of you who hate the triple option are just going to have to get over it. If we had a coach who ran a conventional offense, at a championship level, another school would wave more money at him than we can match with probably fewer recruiting restraints than we'll ever have. Not many P5 schools will want to implement a triple option even if we were to win a championship with it; so we can get and retain the best triple option coaches in the country; whereas it would be highly unlikely we could get a top conventional offense coach to either come or stay here.

The other thing l like about the triple option is that it gives us an identity. I would be fine with continuing it with a Monken type when CPJ hangs it up.
 
I don’t think CPJ would take us to a natty, not with the current level of coaching and players in the game. Just my opinion. I actually wanted Scott Frost, but considering how fast he bailed on UCF I’m sure we would have suffered the same fate. I’d like to see CPJ take us to a level of consistent competitiveness before he retires. Ongoing 9+ win seasons with the occasional dance in the Orange Bowl would be great for me.
 
ACC-CG appearance is CPJ's ceiling. That's as far as his recruiting has taken him so far - no reason to believe it will change.
 
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