CPJ coached at Hawaii for 8 years

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Why don't we get recruits like Tua Tagovailoa to come to the Flats to win us a NC?
 
During the Woody presser he said we recruited him but he didn't want to come here
 
It seems like his old playbook was a mix of flexbone as we know it, and a slightly different formation where the AB's are lined up as slots. The motions, angles, and timings were all different (which might be some insight into why he chose one over both). I think his aversion to being more multiple was captured when we experimented with pistol and we weren't sufficiently good at either (his words).

I wish we did focus on throwing more so that we had a better chance to get good wr, but iiwii.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
What I don't get is why CPJ doesn't throw more elements of his Hawaii offenses into what he runs today, puns intended.
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:lol2:

Spends the year bitching about CPJ's passing system.
Spends the off-season wanting CPJ to dedicate more of it to the game-plan.


Oh, off-season, while still so young, you're growing up before our very eyes.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
:lol2:

Spends the year bitching about CPJ's passing system.
Spends the off-season wanting CPJ to dedicate more of it to the game-plan.


Oh, off-season, while still so young, you're growing up before our very eyes.
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No, spent the year bitching about the lack of passing and variety when we did. Am now spending the off-season continuing to bitch about said lack and why he won't incorporate more variety, Hawaii-style.

Try to keep up, kid.
 
Jeune was wide open against UGAg when Marshall threw into coverage. He stared down the receiver and looked nowhere else. One of the impressive things about Alabama's QB is how he scanned the field. Even on the game winning pass, he looked away first before throwing to his WR
 
JJacket said:
Jeune was wide open against UGAg when Marshall threw into coverage. He stared down the receiver and looked nowhere else. One of the impressive things about Alabama's QB is how he scanned the field. Even on the game winning pass, he looked away first before throwing to his WR
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He deliberately moved the georgia coverage. He recognized they were lined up in cover-2 and looked off the play-side safety before then throwing the pass into man coverage with (now) no safety support. It was perfect.
 
JJacket said:
Jeune was wide open against UGAg when Marshall threw into coverage. He stared down the receiver and looked nowhere else. One of the impressive things about Alabama's QB is how he scanned the field. Even on the game winning pass, he looked away first before throwing to his WR
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He specifically mentioned (in the post-game interview) looking off the corner on the last pass play - UGa's secondary was wandering around downfield like a bunch of drunks after the bar closed down.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
No, spent the year bitching about the lack of passing and variety when we did. Am now spending the off-season continuing to bitch about said lack and why he won't incorporate more variety, Hawaii-style.

Try to keep up, kid.
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I can't help but wonder what our offense would look like with a legit passing threat at QB. I believe that CPJ would call a lot more of the plays we all want to see if we actually had the personnel to do it.
 
johncu said:
I can't help but wonder what our offense would look like with a legit passing threat at QB. I believe that CPJ would call a lot more of the plays we all want to see if we actually had the personnel to do it.
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You may be right. I do not advocate for an Air Raid approach - just one that throws more often, which has been shown to setup the rest of our rushing offense. We cannot repeat the type of O we had in 2017 and expect more than 5-6 wins. We didn't appear to have the personnel to run the base crap, much less the passing stuff.

It all starts with the QB. Huge decision this spring.
 
johncu said:
I can't help but wonder what our offense would look like with a legit passing threat at QB. I believe that CPJ would call a lot more of the plays we all want to see if we actually had the personnel to do it.
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You would be unstoppable!! If GT could muster 120+ a game in passing at 55 -60% your ground game should avg 450, +or- a few yards, and you should be in the 40s at ppg.

It was that way at Southern while PJ was there!
 
GSUsTALON said:
You would be unstoppable!! If GT could muster 120+ a game in passing at 55 -60% your ground game should avg 450, +or- a few yards, and you should be in the 40s at ppg.

It was that way at Southern while PJ was there!
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Justin Thomas passed for 1719 yards, 18 TDs and 6 INTs in 2014, and that was only at 51% completion rate. I think we all remember how completely unstoppable our offense was that year. We averaged 34 ppg IN OUR LOSSES that year. Imagine if we could actually get up to 55%.
 
cincyjacket said:
Why don't we get recruits like Tua Tagovailoa to come to the Flats to win us a NC?
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Because if your goal is to win the national championship you've got a much better chance to do that at USC (apparently Tua's original choice) or at Alabama (see evidence of same) than at GT.

It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with academics or calculus or course offerings. You build a reputation and brand slowly but surely. And we're nowhere near the reputation and brand — in football terms — as Alabama or USC.

Many fans say they prefer the highs and lows of CPJ's years over the mediocrity of CCG's years. (I agree.) But having losing seasons where you don't even make it to a bowl really sets back your football reputation and brand.

I'm a CPJ fan, but we gotta get to a point where we have enough consistency (on the staff, in recruiting, etc.) where a good year is still the OB and fringe NC discussion... but a down year is Music City — not no bowl at all. I'm definitely worried that CPJ can't accomplish it. Ten years is a long time in contemporary coaching tenures.
 
johncu said:
Justin Thomas passed for 1719 yards, 18 TDs and 6 INTs in 2014, and that was only at 51% completion rate. I think we all remember how completely unstoppable our offense was that year. We averaged 34 ppg IN OUR LOSSES that year. Imagine if we could actually get up to 55%.
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Many of GSC/GSU Nat. Championship teams passing % were right at 53%, but in 1999 & 2000 it was higher and we were averaging about 120 passing, ) & 480 on the ground and 48 ppg. through 15 games. Your right though, the pass needs to be a threat to back of the LB & secondary. If you can do that the Triple should be more than effective!
 
JJacket said:
Jeune was wide open against UGAg when Marshall threw into coverage. He stared down the receiver and looked nowhere else. One of the impressive things about Alabama's QB is how he scanned the field. Even on the game winning pass, he looked away first before throwing to his WR
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Because he'd been coached???
 
GSUsTALON said:
You would be unstoppable!! If GT could muster 120+ a game in passing at 55 -60% your ground game should avg 450, +or- a few yards, and you should be in the 40s at ppg.

It was that way at Southern while PJ was there!
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But Southern doesn't have calculus.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
No, spent the year bitching about the lack of passing and variety when we did. Am now spending the off-season continuing to bitch about said lack and why he won't incorporate more variety, Hawaii-style.

Try to keep up, kid.
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Man, it's like you think CPJ's passing game concepts are different between Hawaii and Tech.

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Fact. You spend the entire season bitching about his passing game concepts. Now, you want him to implement more of them.
 
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