Day After Thoughts

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Looking back at '06 recruiting the only problem I see is probation. We must face that the scholarship reduction is going to hurt depth for several years and has a likely chance to impact overal records. I am not critical of this year's recruiting; I am critical of mismanagement of eligibility issues.

The size of the class is why it is ranked 11 of 12 in the conference. Looking at average stars per recruit we move up a few spots, ahead of BC, UVA, NCSU, and Duke.
1. Miami - 3.33 2. FSU - 3.20 3. Clemson - 3.11
4. Maryland - 2.82 5. VT - 2.68 5. UNC - 3.68
7. GT - 2.57 8. Duke - 2.46 9. BC - 2.40
10. State - 2.39 11. UVA - 2.36 12. WFU - 2.29

I am grateful to the recruits who signed with us. Glad to have them as Yellow Jackets. They seem to be a quality group - at least one recruit each to help the D in backfield, line, and LB right away, a strong class at WR and RB. The numbers are just thin.

The biggest conference positive was probably at Clemson. The schools who should be most alarmed by a weak effort are NCSU and UVA.
 
I keep hearing that our ranking is low because of the numbers signed. Is this really true? Maybe so maybe not. USC signed 15 and are ranked in the top 10 or is it top 5? Had we signed a Johnny Unitas or a Joe Monatana and no one else we would have been ranked top 10. So the number may lie and of course liars will use the numbers. What really counts is quality of players, position of players and coaches ability to coach those players up and in CCG's case coach them down!
 
Johnny Unitas was a complete unknown. Good choice Foggy.

The real issue is how did we recruit for our needs. I think we did a good job. Most importantly, I think you need to look at Dr. Clough instead of Chan when it comes to recruiting.
 
Oh sorry, I forgot that nothing is CCG's fault. It all the other factors but it's never CCG's fault. So lets just keep the guy, continue to lose to the likes of UTAH/DUKE/FRESNO etc lets just keep the 51-7 scores coming. You and your ilk who like to see Tech drubbed will continue to see it under CCG but, oh yes forgot for a moment it's NEVER CCG's fault!
 
When I look at each of the players individually, save one or two, I can really see how they will fit in and help us win ballgames.

The only disappointment is falling short by about 3 ships again this year. Gailey acknowledged that yesterday in "the group" and said that is why recruiting is getting overhauled with one of the two new asst. coaches being a top notch recruiter that will live on the road and the addition of Geoff Collins to generate excitement in recruiting, high school relations, promotions, etc.

The other issue that will be addressed is whether or not CG is allowed to have exceptions. It is not an exception if The Hill turns someone down, CG says he wants to use an exception, and The Hill says no. This will be addressed in the coming months.
 
That\'s pessimistic.

Of course.

It is my opinion that after three years at #1, USC could sign me, you, buzzweiser, and GTDean and we would be a top 10 class. The fact is NOBODY can challenge them in the PAC 10. That conference is worse than the Big East was when it collapsed. At least the Big East had two great teams and some capable teams like WVU and BC. Where would the other 9 PAC 10 teams rank in the SEC? THEREFORE, a 'guru' would look like a doofus if they did not rank a guaranteed 10 win team like USC highly.

However I will not say they did not pick and choose the top players this year. But their classes were rated pretty average right up until they started winning.

We compare a lot to VT WRT recruiting. VT always gets outrecruited by UVA according to the gurus. This year they landed like one top 30 player in the state of Virginia. They just do a better job than the 'gurus' of selecting college football talent. I'd bet they don't have a rivals subscription while it is probably Al Groh's home page.

I'll tell you why GT will continue to struggle in the Feb National Championships.
#1. Our trend lately is to take excellent student athletes who consider school important. Our retention rate is very high right now. Even after the probation is over, we will only have 15-18 scholarships available (85/~5) every year.
#2. This staff seems to want to evaluate players themselves. Our classes contain a huge number of players who camped at GT. If you watch carefully, we regularly offer unknown players after our camp over players at the same position who are rated three stars by Rivals. Sometimes that is corrected, more often the unknown gets a two star ranking and the three star takes an offer somewhere else.

We have a crazy big list of 'sleepers' who were awesome. If you look back, most of them camped at GT and we jumped all over them early. Say what you want about this staff's ability to coach, but these guys are top 10 in talent evaluation IMHO.
 
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Oh sorry, I forgot that nothing is CCG's fault. It all the other factors but it's never CCG's fault. So lets just keep the guy, continue to lose to the likes of UTAH/DUKE/FRESNO etc lets just keep the 51-7 scores coming. You and your ilk who like to see Tech drubbed will continue to see it under CCG but, oh yes forgot for a moment it's NEVER CCG's fault!

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here here! well said. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif
 
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The only disappointment is falling short by about 3 ships again this year.

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Hmmm, 62 players returning...add one for Barnes...we signed 15 after a last minute defection...that adds up to 78, one less than the NCAA probation will allow us to have on scholarship next year (or is next year now this year?).
 
Marist could out recruit us! Be more Friday night games for me next year!
 
Sure but do we really want to be one of those

programs?

All our kids are qualifiers. We can't talk a borderline kid into taking a year at Hargrave if everyone pans out and we don't get our predicted defections like UGA does.

If we have a defection a deserving walk on will get a ship.
 
Re: Sure but do we really want to be one of those

I am talking about current players, not new signees.
 
Lets see.. last time I looked..you and I had little ability to fire CG.... I believe that task rests with a guy named Clough..with maybe some input from DB.. don't kid yourself "foggy" the problem rests with Clough...but don't get me wrong..I'm not fond of either....
 
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