Division Brackets (Poll)

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At the risk of beating a dead horse, here is the best senario I've come up with so far.

DIV I
GT
UVA
UM
MD
Duke
UNC

DIV II
FSU
Clem
NCST
WF
BC
Cuse

Then do like SEC used to do and play 2 teams on permanent basis and 1 on a 2yr home and home rotator (that's at least how uga used to do--playing auburn and ole miss every year).

GT -- Clem, BC
UVA -- FSU, Clem
UM -- FSU, Cuse
MD -- BC, Cuse
Duke -- NCST, WF
UNC -- NCST, WF

that would leave 4 OOC games a year like we have now, or we could do 2 on a rotation basis and have 3 OOC games like we had before 12 game seasons began.

Other Ideas?
 
There're so many different ways to shake it out AND so much politics involved I think I'll be surprised what they settle on (if they can).

I guess my favorite lineup now would be to keep the old Big East guys together and keep FSU, Clemson & TECH together. Leave us Virginia, give them Maryland and split the NC schools.

Them
Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
Maryland
North Carolina
NC State

Us
GT
Florida State
Clemson
Virginia
Duke
Wake Forest

Or something like that.
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Originally posted by gnats 67:
There're so many different ways to shake it out AND so much politics involved I think I'll be surprised what they settle on (if they can).

I guess my favorite lineup now would be to keep the old Big East guys together and keep FSU, Clemson & TECH together. Leave us Virginia, give them Maryland and split the NC schools.

Them
Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
Maryland
North Carolina
NC State

Us
GT
Florida State
Clemson
Virginia
Duke
Wake Forest

Or something like that.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Politics are right i think the carolina schools want to say togather.
 
I think the Carolina 4 do want to stay together but I don't know why. Does that mean they assume there will never be two of them good enough to meet in the football championship game? I would also think the divisions would play into the basketball tourney as well, but don't know just how. It seems they would be eliminating each other from a chance at the ring. What am I missing?
 
I hope the Carolina schools do demand to stay together and Miami, Clemson, FSU, BC and Syracuse end up in our division. Then we could make UVA our permanent player from the other division. I would love to play those guys every year instead of a risking a rotational basis.
 
If the four Carolina teams stay in the same division, it will be detrimental to revenue collections of their cities from tourism.

If all four play each other on a round robin schedule in the same division and have only a couple of OOD games, it would not enhance revenue for the hotels, motels, restaurants, etc. in those four school areas.

They are close enough to each other, that the fans from one school can leave in the morning, go to the stadium, and return home in the same day.

However, if two of them are in another conference, it should enhance the revenue to all of the surrounding college cities due to the tourism of ACC teams from the other States.

It sounds reasonable to me, it would be beneficial for half of the four to be in a separate division.

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I think it's VERY important that the Divisions are created with geography being the deciding factor. This can easily be done while still allowing the NC schools to play two in hoops and each other in football.

SOUTH
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
NC State
Wake Forest

NORTH
Boston College
Syracuse
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina
Duke

UVA-UNC, BC-SYR, UNC-Duke, GT-Clem, Miami-FSU, GT-FSU, NCST-WF all preserved.

In football all teams would play 3 games with teams from the other division. 2 of those games would be fixed every year for the Carolina schools (NCST-Duke, NCST-UNC, UNC-Wake, Wake-Duke). The Carolina schools would only have one rotating interdivisional game.

All remaining non-Carolina schools would have one fixed interdivisional game and two rotating. SYR-Miami, UVA-GT, Clem-UMd, BC-Wake and FSU-Duke are probable fixed games.

We should be following the example set by the SEC (not the academic example). We already failed to do that by taking BC and SYR without considering VT and WVU or Pitt. To make it harder to travel by creating divisions independent of geography would be yet another misstep in the leadership of this conference.
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Keep Miami with their ex-Big East rivals. Geography is most important IMHO, but Miami is as far from GA, SC & NC as is NY and Boston. So placing Miami in the South Division does not help travel much.

Remember, each school plays everyone in their division plus three from the other division w/one being permanent. The big Four NC schools can still play each other every year.

North Division

Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
Maryland
Virginia
Wake Forest

South Division

FSU
GT
Clemson
UNC
NC State
Duke
 
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