Duke RAPE scandel.....

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law_bee

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anyone who refuse to cooperate with the police should be dismissed from the team immediately, IMO. Certainly anyone who is facing a potential serious criminal charge should seek legal counsel b/f talking with the cops, however the "other" players who appear to be "stonewalling" should be dismissed from the team.

This is a serious charge that should be investigated and those that hinder the investigation should also probably be kicked out of school IMO.
 
Lawbee,
just for curiosity's sake, I've been wondering what this may wind up doing to Duke University.
Will/can/may the university be held liable in any way?
I would think there would bound to be an adverse result in enrollment.
Are the possibilities endless to what can happen there?
And to think that it could possibily have happened here too, given the same circumstances.
 
the vic is NOT a student and it did NOT happen on campus so IMO that takes Dook off the hook regarding the actual incident.

When I read this it is the POST incident behavior that is the problem. ANYONE who is not involved in this incident should be required to cooperate with the investigation.

I don't know whether the girl was gang-raped or not but there SHOULD be a search for the truth.

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Nifong said the team members are standing together and refusing to talk with investigators, and he warned he may bring aiding-and- abetting charges against some of the players.

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I would think that Dook would have a code of conduct that would lead to dismissal for failure to cooperate w/ an ongoing police investigation.

WHILE I DO NOT THINK THAT A SUSPECTED PERP SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL that is PAST CONDUCT. For someone that is NOT INVOLVED to refuse to cooperate is an ONGOING AND PRESENT problem that should be addressed swiftly.
 
Lawbee, the fact that they have all agreed to provide DNA samples seems to me that they are cooperative. And who is to say the sex was not consensual. Damn, we have switched positions!
 
Re: Duke RAPE scandal..... court ordered DNA

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Armed with a judge's order, police took DNA samples with a cheek swab from 46 of the lacrosse team's 47 players last week. The 47th player, the only black member of the team, did not have to provide DNA because the dancer said her attackers were white.

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According the the articles and all those protesters they are NOT cooperating.

I DO NOT expect anyone involved to cooperate, but I would expect the others to cooperate.

I said in my post I don't know whether this girl was gang-raped but it is a serious allegation and you would think that the school would want it thoroughly investigated. You would also think that the school would come down hard on anyone who impeded that investigation.

Since I moved to CLT I handle some Juvi's that are charged w/ serious crimes in addition to adults(in ATL only had adult clients). I had a case a few months ago where my client 14 y/o was given a gun to hold. I think it was a 9mm. Anyway the father found the gun and BECAUSE HE WAS A SMART PERSON he called the police immediately.

It turned out that the gun was STOLEN so that is a felony in NC. The kid that gave the gun to my guy was charged and pled to felony, but my guy was able to plead to misd. receiving stolen prop b/c of the father's actions.

I walk into ct and the other guy's idiot lawyer is attempting to paint my guy as the bad guy and was telling the prosecutor that my guy should NOT be rewarded for being a "RAT"

She is obviously an inexperienced idiot of a lawyer and I will tell you why. There are NUMEROUS times you would want your client to lawyer up. When your client is found with a gun that is NOT theirs and they DO NOT know the status of the gun that is NOT THE TIME TO LAWYER UP. IMO

If the gun had been used in shooting the first words out of your client's mouth could be the difference in him going to prison OR NOT.

I pulled her aside and pointed that out to her. That this gun was stolen and possibly could have been used to kill a cop. I would hope that when she advises her clients in the future that she would consider the consequences carefully.

If your involvement is MINIMAL the truth is almost always the best course of action.

The gun in the above case was gang related. Gangs have changed the playing field considerably. Charlotte public schools have turned into gang recruitment facilities.

The days of worrying about stolen bikes by kids have been replaced w/ armed robberies.
 
Couple of things. First, the house they were at may actually belong to Duke. I'm not clear on that, but do know that Duke bought several on that street recently and rents some out. But it was off campus, if only across the street from East Campus.

Duke has done about what they can in terms of cooperating institutionally with the police I believe. I don't know lawbee, but would be shocked if any university has a code of conduct that requires a student to give up their constitutional rights.

The entire team did provide DNA samples, but they are refusing to talk with police about the party at all, or at least that's the report.

Finally, this will hurt Duke but doubt it will hurt enrollment. They are one of the most selective universities in the country so a huge drop in applications might mean they have 6 for every opening instead of 8 or whatever.
 
Re: Duke RAPE scandal.....

according to the articles team members who were not involved are refusing to answer the questions. I just looked at the obstruction statutes here in NC and they appear pretty weak. If they convene a grand jury and call witnesses to that then it could a be a felony to discourage someone from testifying.

From the article it appears that the WHOLE TEAM got together and said lets not answer any questions. IF THAT IS THE CASE then heavy penalties should come down by the school.

Now if the feds got involved that is A WHOLE different ball game. The fact that there appears to be a racial element to this means that is always a possibility, but it seem rather remote.

When the police are investigating and you are not involved then you should cooperate. Was it Chicago back in the 70's where the woman was brutally raped and all the neighbors heard the commotion but never called the cops. Then the attacker came back and killed her?

IF YOU KNEW A TEAMMATE of yours had raped someone and the police asked you to answer question would you decline?


How bout casualties of war? anybody see that movie?

could you testify against a fellow soldier? how bout if the victim was a child?

I don't know what happened in this case but I do know there are serious crimes committed everyday.
 
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