Early look at 2020

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  1. aeromech

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    https://pittsburgh.rivals.com/news/around-the-coastal-the-georgia-tech-yellow-jackets?yptr=yahoo

    The rest of the article is a decent rundown of who is leaving, returning, and is now eligible from Quinlan.
     
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    Cause we won't play them!
     
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    Pretty decent breakdown of our team here. Thanks for posting.
     
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    Jordan Mason gained 774 of his 899 yards rushig after contact? That seems absurd. I want to know how that stacks up against other backs.
     
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    I think he was ranked #1 in the country in this statistic. On the flip side, this also means our OL was really bad. For an entire season, he was untouched on a whopping 125 yards. Yikes.
     
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    Seems RBs get almost all yards after first contact. Seems like broken tackles per run would be more informative.
     
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    As has been pointed out, he was #1 in the country. I'm not entirely sure if that's total yards after contact, or yards after contact per carry or what. I did some cursory searching and couldn't find this stastic anywhere.

    Mason averaged 5.2 yards per carry. 86% of his yards were after contact. This means that, on average, he was hit less than 3/4 of a yard after the line of scrimmage, and gained the other ~4.5 yards after being hit.

    Again, this seems absurd. The only other place I could find anything to compare it to, though was with NFL running backs. Derrick Henry led the NFL in yards after contact in 2019, with 1.9 YBC/att and 3.2 YAC/att. Mason's stats blow that out of the water. I'm aware, though, that NCAA and NFL football are very different. I'd love to see comparisons to other college backs if anyone can find them.
     
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    Seems like a combination of Mason not being super quick to the holes, and no holes. More the latter.

    We've fixed the OL problems, for the most, with two full-sized experienced transfers and three holdovers with mass gain and more time in system.

    We also have Gibbs coming in, who is super-quick to the hole. So if Mason has problems in a specific matchup, we have options. I still see Mason as our #1 back, but if he is having a rough game we now have more options.
     
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    3 wins would be very disappointing. 5 wins and I’m happy. A bowl game would be a great season.
     
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    We haven't fixed anything until we see them working as a unit in game time; but I agree these additions should help tremendously.
     
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    I remember back in the day, when Walter Payton had to break tackles just to get back to the line of scrimmage, and he still ended up being a rushing leader in the league. That said I don't know how the NFL or NCAA measure YAC for a running back. Is it yards after contact even if that contact is behind the line of scrimmage (ex. could a RB get +3 YAC on a play that netted -1 yard if the first contact was 4 yards deep); or only yards past the line of scrimmage after contact? NFL may measure it one way while the NCAA measures it another.
     
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    Yeah, I really wish I could find NCAA numbers. Hopefully someone here is better at Google-fu than I am.