Every defense completely sells out against the option now

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It's a literal all-out sprint to the backfield at the snap now. Since they only have to defend one pass route and we have an awful passer at QB, it's a risk I would take always. What bothers me is CPJ used to be the king of adjustments but I swear its the same plays over and over again. I'm sure he's made blocking adjustments but damn it doesnt look much different as the game progresses. I do believe defense have finally caught up to CPJ. There's a formula out there and when it works, there's no adjustment other than slam the BB into a brick wall or pitch run wide with more defenders than blockers in the backfield.

It seems like *something* should be open with the complete sell out by the defense but we still run the same plays over and over again.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
It's a literal all-out sprint to the backfield at the snap now. Since they only have to defend one pass route and we have an awful passer at QB, it's a risk I would take always. What bothers me is CPJ used to be the king of adjustments but I swear its the same plays over and over again. I'm sure he's made blocking adjustments but damn it doesnt look much different as the game progresses. I do believe defense have finally caught up to CPJ. There's a formula out there and when it works, there's no adjustment other than slam the BB into a brick wall or pitch run wide with more defenders than blockers in the backfield.

It seems like *something* should be open with the complete sell out by the defense but we still run the same plays over and over again.
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Something IS open. We just can't complete the passes, and poor pass blocking doesn't help.
 
johncu said:
Something IS open. We just can't complete the passes, and poor pass blocking doesn't help.
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true but TQ actually had some time today on at least the 3 short-route, WFO plays we ran today and just threw terrible passes.

TQ isn't a good throwing QB. Time for a change at that position.
 
From 10 years of closely watching this offense, it is 100% the passing game, or legitimate threat of it, that makes the rest of it work against the better defenses.
 
Philosophically, I think Coach Johnson has always wanted a DC who was more aggressive and takes a few more chances to try to shorten opposing drives (for better or worse, I suppose) and create more turnovers. That's just not Roof's style. I do think Roof's done a decent job improving recruiting on the defensive side of the ball, so I worry a little about that.

None of that matters a bit, though, if Paul can't get the offensive side of the house back in order. The offense obviously completely fizzled the last 1.5 games of the season and even before that it felt like they hadn't played a consistent 60 minute effort in forever. And they've got weapons aplenty, on paper, which makes their lack of production all the more annoying. As sour as I am about how the D played the last 90 minutes of football, I'm more concerned about the O, on balance, because their problems were more protracted.

Special teams, I think, will be helped by the two freshmen having a chance to get stronger and more experienced.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
It's a literal all-out sprint to the backfield at the snap now. Since they only have to defend one pass route and we have an awful passer at QB, it's a risk I would take always. What bothers me is CPJ used to be the king of adjustments but I swear its the same plays over and over again. I'm sure he's made blocking adjustments but damn it doesnt look much different as the game progresses. I do believe defense have finally caught up to CPJ. There's a formula out there and when it works, there's no adjustment other than slam the BB into a brick wall or pitch run wide with more defenders than blockers in the backfield.

It seems like *something* should be open with the complete sell out by the defense but we still run the same plays over and over again.
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Yes because their offense knows they can score at will....
 
gt6828d said:
Philosophically, I think Coach Johnson has always wanted a DC who was more aggressive and takes a few more chances to try to shorten opposing drives (for better or worse, I suppose) and create more turnovers. That's just not Roof's style. I do think Roof's done a decent job improving recruiting on the defensive side of the ball, so I worry a little about that.

None of that matters a bit, though, if Paul can't get the offensive side of the house back in order. The offense obviously completely fizzled the last 1.5 games of the season and even before that it felt like they hadn't played a consistent 60 minute effort in forever. And they've got weapons aplenty, on paper, which makes their lack of production all the more annoying. As sour as I am about how the D played the last 90 minutes of football, I'm more concerned about the O, on balance, because their problems were more protracted.

Special teams, I think, will be helped by the two freshmen having a chance to get stronger and more experienced.
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The DC that you described sounds exactly like the one that was here when PJ was hired.
 
gt6828d said:
I agree, but that DC was pretty PO'ed he didn't get the HC job and didn't want to stay, from what I understand.
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Not sure he enjoyed recruiting, lots of infighting on those later teams, benched Choice in the bowl game for leading a prayer(not 100%sure of the exact circumstances)
 
KrazieJacket said:
Not sure he enjoyed recruiting, lots of infighting on those later teams, benched Choice in the bowl game for leading a prayer(not 100%sure of the exact circumstances)
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Tenuta hasn't exactly cloaked himself in glory since leaving Tech, so I'm in no way pining for the guy. With that said, if you could theoretically assemble that kind of aggressive defense with CPJ's better 3O attacks it'd be a scary combination, on paper. If the 3O is working, TOP and possessions are the important factors, so if you get caught giving up a few more quick strikes against that's a trade off you might be willing to make if you take a few more possessions off the other team via turnover because even if you surrender the quick strikes you should be only widening the TOP advantage.
 
gt6828d said:
Tenuta hasn't exactly cloaked himself in glory since leaving Tech, so I'm in no way pining for the guy. With that said, if you could theoretically assemble that kind of aggressive defense with CPJ's better 3O attacks it'd be a scary combination, on paper. If the 3O is working, TOP and possessions are the important factors, so if you get caught giving up a few more quick strikes against that's a trade off you might be willing to make if you take a few more possessions off the other team via turnover because even if you surrender the quick strikes you should be only widening the TOP advantage.
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Agree, but we'd also need to get back to the talent level we used to have on the front 7
 
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