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what do you guys think of the BYU/Washington call??

funny how mark may says "he flips the ball over his shoulder"...he pretty much flung it....but i still dont agree...i like to see a little celebration...

sucks for wash
 
There was no taunting, and I think it's pretty ridiculous that they made that call. More than absurd, I was utterly surprised that a PAC 10 officiating crew would make that call against a PAC 10 team. I don't even think an ACC crew would do that.
 
Somebody needs to be suspended. I mean, the PAC-10 has a reputation for bad refs to start with...that was simply ridiculous.
 
The refs had no choice. The stupid NCAA rule clearly states that throwing the ball up into the air is considered excessive celerbration.

Since when did Nancy Pelosi become part of the NCAA rules commitee? Political Correctness has no place in football!
 
of course they had a choice...how many refs have flags in their pockets--only one decided to throw his....


its like getting pulled over for going 56 mph in a 55....
 
Don't think you can suspend or fine the referee...it is very clear in the rules that what happened was a penalty, and that rule is a point of emphasis from the NCAA this year. It's tough to tell the refs "we want you to make extra sure to make this call" and then penalize them for doing just that.

However, I think everyone knows it would have been better just to swallow the whistle(or flag, as it may be) in that situation...there are better times to set an example. They did an interview with the head of officiating guy and while he said it was within the rules, you could tell he wished it hadn't been thrown.
 
This was not a situation where only one or two people observed the violation, alah being pulled over for going 1 mile an hour over the speed limit. These games are reviewed by the NCAA and all the refs are graded on there performance, which in turn my cause them to lose out on post season work. The NCAA has their collective heads up their asses on this.

I dont know how your bosses are, but if I am given a specific order and then I do not follow through on it, I will not be getting my Christmas bonus.

Either way it is just simply one of many stupid rules handed down by the NCAA
 
Buzz'n said:
This was not a situation where only one or two people observed the violation, alah being pulled over for going 1 mile an hour over the speed limit. These games are reviewed by the NCAA and all the refs are graded on there performance, which in turn my cause them to lose out on post season work. The NCAA has their collective heads up their asses on this.

I dont know how your bosses are, but if I am given a specific order and then I do not follow through on it, I will not be getting my Christmas bonus.

Either way it is just simply one of many stupid rules handed down by the NCAA
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Nancy Pelosi, political correctness, stupid rules, hmmm..I don't know seems thematic to me. Watch your point.
 
Heres the rule:
RULE 9.2 / CONDUCT OF PLAYERS AND OTHERS SUBJECT TO RULES FR-123
game officials or to the image of the game, including but not limited
to:
(d) Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon himself (or themselves).
This prohibits:
(a) Kicking, throwing, spinning or carrying (including off of the
field) the ball any distance that requires an official to retrieve it.
(b) Spiking the ball to the ground [Exception: A forward pass to
conserve time (Rule 7-3-2-d)].
(c) Throwing the ball high into the air.
(d) Any other unsportsmanlike act or actions that delay the game.

My problem is the call is still subjective by the officials. What consititutes how high is high in the air. He was celebrating with his teammates and the officials call denied them a chance to win or at least a chance for OT and some more great football for all of us fans.
 
gilmerwreck said:
Heres the rule:
RULE 9.2 / CONDUCT OF PLAYERS AND OTHERS SUBJECT TO RULES FR-123
game officials or to the image of the game, including but not limited
to:
(d) Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon himself (or themselves).
This prohibits:
(a) Kicking, throwing, spinning or carrying (including off of the
field) the ball any distance that requires an official to retrieve it.
(b) Spiking the ball to the ground [Exception: A forward pass to
conserve time (Rule 7-3-2-d)].
(c) Throwing the ball high into the air.
(d) Any other unsportsmanlike act or actions that delay the game.

My problem is the call is still subjective by the officials. What consititutes how high is high in the air. He was celebrating with his teammates and the officials call denied them a chance to win or at least a chance for OT and some more great football for all of us fans.
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you could also argue that he did "A" "Throwing the ball any distance to make an official retrive it" THAT might in fact be the one they got him on.

While Im not arguing it is a STUPID rule, it is in fact A RULE, and the ref made the right call.
 
At least they're consistent.

They MOST DEFINITELY WOULD have called that on us, and dumbarse Herbstreit would have ignored it instead of making a big deal about it.

The only reason this is an issue is that PAC 10 refs are slack asses at enforcing the rules, and have been for years, so they've gotten away with a lot more than the rest of the country has, and the media doesn't want to see the PAC 10 lose to a non BCS school.

Anyone remember Calvin getting an excessive for spinning the ball out of his hand? They called it a spike.
 
The issue I have with this is that ref who called it said it was not up to his judgment, that it was a mandatory call. Yet, the head of the NCAA rule committee, when interviewed, said it was the judgment of the ref at least four times. I blame the rule committee more then the ref on this one.

I also blame Mark Richt.
 
refrigeratormover said:
just saw the same thing in the utah/unlv game and it wasn't called. Rule will be changed next year.
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I know the guys on ESPN have been discussing the stupidity of this rule change for the last week. Hopefully the NCAA will not wait till next year to "modify" the rule.
 
What I don't understand is why the ESPN guys kept saying that it was a call that affected the outcome of the game. The fact of the matter is that the extra distance wasn't the cause of the missed field goal. The entire BYU line broke through and blocked the crap out of the kick. If he had pulled the kick or missed it short, I would understand.

Regardless of whether the call was right or wrong, it didn't affect the outcome of the game.
 
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