F$U thread on CG going to NFL...

While true, you're pulling typical lawyer manuvers with the "first time ever" ACCCG comment, there has only been 1 other ACCCG for us to go to, so by logic we're made the ACCCG 50% of the time.

I fail to see how anyone is running of CCG, unless Rad has told him to pack his bags (which we cant afford to do), then it doesnt mean anything anyways.
 
the NEXT time we make it to an ACCCG other than CG make sure you bring it to my attention.

Also make sure you remind me the next time we go 7-1 in the ACC w/ another coach.

I VERY MUCH hope I am wrong.
 
this whole situation has to be one of the strangest ever. GT makes the ACCCG for the first time ever and we reward our coach by running him off?
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We're not running Gailey off, he's out there pimpin himself around for an NFL job.
 
goldmember said:
We're not running Gailey off, he's out there pimpin himself around for an NFL job.
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I'm not sure that that is an accurate statement. Two jobs have come open and both of them are jobs with which he has a prior connection. And in one of them the departing head coach specifically recommended Chan to the owners.

I don't think his interviewing with the Steelers and the Dolphins qualifies as "pimpin himself around for an NFL job." Of course he might ALSO be calling others or having his representatives call others.

This past summer a friend of mine called me to ask me if I was interested in coming to work for his employer in his group. I talked with them and eventually I did take a job with them. I wasn't "pimpin" myself around. Someone who was familiar with me professionally and personally contacted me. I think this might be similar to Chan interviewing with the Dolphins and Steelers.

Now don't get me wrong, folks. I'm not pleased that he's out there interviewing very publicly (I didn't do my interviewing in the public eye nor did I let it affect my work for my previous employer - in fact I worked HARDER for them during that time making sure everything I did was even more well documented and reusable by others). All I'm objecting to is the characterization of it as "pimpin himself around."
 
the NEXT time we make it to an ACCCG other than CG make sure you bring it to my attention.

Also make sure you remind me the next time we go 7-1 in the ACC w/ another coach.
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Chan deserves credit for our achievements this year. However, I honestly believe we were only marginally better than his other teams. The ACC was WAY, WAY down this year.
 
If this sends our program into a tailspin we will be the laughing stock of college football.
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If Gailey leaves for the NFL, and our program goes into a tailspin, we won't be a laughing stock. The NFL is lucrative, and obviously a step up.

If idiot fans run him off to another college program, like NC State did to Sendek, then yeah, we'll be a laughing stock.

The Chan situation in general really does remind me of the NC State / Sendek situation in a lot of ways. Sendek never won a title, always competed well in the ACC, and always made the big dance (e.g. bowl game), but he never beat their in-state rivals, so he got run out of town and now they're terrible because they couldn't get a good replacement.
 
JOJATK said:
I'm not sure that that is an accurate statement. Two jobs have come open and both of them are jobs with which he has a prior connection. And in one of them the departing head coach specifically recommended Chan to the owners.

I don't think his interviewing with the Steelers and the Dolphins qualifies as "pimpin himself around for an NFL job." Of course he might ALSO be calling others or having his representatives call others.

This past summer a friend of mine called me to ask me if I was interested in coming to work for his employer in his group. I talked with them and eventually I did take a job with them. I wasn't "pimpin" myself around. Someone who was familiar with me professionally and personally contacted me. I think this might be similar to Chan interviewing with the Dolphins and Steelers.

Now don't get me wrong, folks. I'm not pleased that he's out there interviewing very publicly (I didn't do my interviewing in the public eye nor did I let it affect my work for my previous employer - in fact I worked HARDER for them during that time making sure everything I did was even more well documented and reusable by others). All I'm objecting to is the characterization of it as "pimpin himself around."
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gailey is making it known that he can be had. And for the right price. Just like the girls on the street do. It would be very easy for gailey to make it known that he's not available.

I don't know why you disagree with the pimp characterization.
 
LongforDodd said:
gailey is making it known that he can be had. And for the right price. Just like the girls on the street do. It would be very easy for gailey to make it known that he's not available.

I don't know why you disagree with the pimp characterization.
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I disagree with that characterization for the simple reason that the girls on the street are actively marketing themselves out. They aren't just sitting in their homes when some guy they know calls them and offers them $1000 to go out on a "date" with them. They are on the corner offering themselves up.

I don't see that happening here. I thought I made that very clear.
 
JOJATK said:
I disagree with that characterization for the simple reason that the girls on the street are actively marketing themselves out. They aren't just sitting in their homes when some guy they know calls them and offers them $1000 to go out on a "date" with them. They are on the corner offering themselves up.

I don't see that happening here. I thought I made that very clear.
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It's very clear that gailey is "passively aggressively" making himself available.
 
I agree Jojakt, was mainly trying to be funny but 'pimpin himself around' is a heck of lot more accurate than he is being 'run off' which a lot of folks are saying.
 
Good point LongforDodd, all Gailey has to do is tell the pro teams that he is not interested in interviewing for any openings,but thank you anyway.
 
goldmember said:
I agree Jojakt, was mainly trying to be funny but 'pimpin himself around' is a heck of lot more accurate than he is being 'run off' which a lot of folks are saying.
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I don't think either is particularly accurate, myself. But then again I am actively choosing to look at this and not try to interpret it beyond what I can see (not saying you are either).

It is entirely possible that Chan is being run off just as it is entirely possible that he is actively putting his name out in the job search. But until I see real evidence of either I'm just choosing, like I said, to believe what I can see which is that there are two NFL clubs steeped in NFL history and lore with good owners that Chan has strong connections to. Both of them have job openings. He was not fired from either job and so the likelihood is that they still have lots of respect for him and so they came calling and he's listening. There may be far more to it than that under the surface but there is just too much speculation and interpretation of events for me to go with either theory right now.
 
yellowbritchies said:
Good point LongforDodd, all Gailey has to do is tell the pro teams that he is not interested in interviewing for any openings,but thank you anyway.
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True, all he has to do is tell them he's not interested. But maybe he IS interested because of who is calling. Perhaps he isn't out there actively marketing himself to EVERYONE on the street who can pay him.

I think there's a tremendous distinction.

By the way, please note that I'm not suggesting anyone has to like this or see it as a positive. I certainly don't like it nor do I see this as a positive thing for GT. I don't argue that it is possible to interpret many things that have been done and said over the last five years and come to the conclusion that Chan is actively searching for a new job. On the other hand it is entirely possible to do the same thing and conclude that Chan isn't actively searching for other positions and that he would be perfectly happy to be the HC at GT. I've just not seen enough evidence yet to convince me that either is 100% true.
 
To be honest, it's truly presumtuous to assume that Tech is some kind of great dream job and that Chan shouldn't look to triple his salary.

In fact, 3 out of the last 4 football coaches left for a better job somewhere. Curry left for Alabama; Ross left for IIRC the Chargers and GOL left for ND. Both Ross and GOL have been on record about how the immense challenges of the GT job and Curry left because Bobby Dodd warned him about the GT job.

As GOL said, we want to be Harvard five days out of the week and FSU on the sixth. Many of our fans want Chan's head after a 9 win season and after going to a bowl game each of his five years.

Then, we turn around and chastise him for considering a job that could triple his salary, where he would only have to worry about football and none of the non-football requirements that Georgia Tech has. No wonder he's thinking about leaving.
 
Dude, comparing someone getting offered a job interview out of the blue to a prostitute selling blowjobs on the street is just really really dumb, and obviously calculated to incite and inflame the public.
 
law_bee said:
the NEXT time we make it to an ACCCG other than CG make sure you bring it to my attention.

Also make sure you remind me the next time we go 7-1 in the ACC w/ another coach.

I VERY MUCH hope I am wrong.
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Let the next guy play these same ACC teams and you'll likely have it brought to your attention sooner than later.
 
not quite..

beej67 said:
The Chan situation in general really does remind me of the NC State / Sendek situation in a lot of ways. Sendek never won a title, always competed well in the ACC, and always made the big dance (e.g. bowl game), but he never beat their in-state rivals, so he got run out of town and now they're terrible because they couldn't get a good replacement.
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State is terrible b/c Herb's recruiting was uneven and his freshman 3pt shooter went to Florida...

If Chan were 6-29 against our main rivals, we'd run him out too...

now the HC search is a different story
 
law_bee said:
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this whole situation has to be one of the strangest ever. GT makes the ACCCG for the first time ever and we reward our coach by running him off? :rolleyes:

If this sends our program into a tailspin we will be the laughing stock of college football.
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You have got to be kidding? Lets see: Pittsburgh and Miami are both interested in Gailey-or they wouldnt interview him. They can pay 4 times what we can pay. Wouldnt you be interested and listen (esp since he knows them and they know him)?? This going to ACCCG stuff has 0 to do with anything.
 
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