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Skydog

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According to Mike Locksley:

"Unfortunately, we moved in at a time when facilities have been de-emphasized in a recruit’s mind. Because they’d get dressed in the trash can for $25,000.

— Mike Locksley, via The Athletic"

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Maryland Coach Explains How NIL Made Expensive New Facility Irrelevant

Success on the recruiting trail has a direct correlation to NIL funds in college football. Maryland and Mike Locksley can't keep up!
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Skydog said:
According to Mike Locksley:

"Unfortunately, we moved in at a time when facilities have been de-emphasized in a recruit’s mind. Because they’d get dressed in the trash can for $25,000.

— Mike Locksley, via The Athletic"

www.outkick.com

Maryland Coach Explains How NIL Made Expensive New Facility Irrelevant

Success on the recruiting trail has a direct correlation to NIL funds in college football. Maryland and Mike Locksley can't keep up!
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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There is some truth to this, however if two schools have similar opportunities monetarily wise the facilities could be the deciding factor.
 
Sad where all of this landed. The kids really will lose out long term.

Locksley’s logic is kind of stupid too, given he was likely OK that kid’s didn’t care about education as long as they had a nice apartment, and an athletic facility with ice cream machines and water slides.

Now he’s jaded that they don’t care about the ice cream machines.
 
Not surprising. When it was illegal to pay players you had a facilities arms race to attract them. Now you can just pay more NIL to get the best players.

Plenty of NFL locker rooms were supposed dumps but it's the zeros on the paycheck that would bring in the best players.
 
The Champ said:
Sad where all of this landed. The kids really will lose out long term.

Locksley’s logic is kind of stupid too, given he was likely OK that kid’s didn’t care about education as long as they had a nice apartment, and an athletic facility with ice cream machines and water slides.

Now he’s jaded that they don’t care about the ice cream machines.
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Wait. Wut? Ice cream machines? My nipples just got hard. What the hell is an ice cream machine and where can I get one? Do they make beer machines?
 
gnats67 said:
Wait. Wut? Ice cream machines? My nipples just got hard. What the hell is an ice cream machine and where can I get one? Do they make beer machines?
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gnats67 said:
Wait. Wut? Ice cream machines? My nipples just got hard. What the hell is an ice cream machine and where can I get one? Do they make beer machines?
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Yes, they make beer machines. They’re called sybians. Don’t even Google it, just order one.
 
When I want a good commentary on the landscape of college athletics, I go right to the University of Maryland head football coach.
 
NIL is less of a factor at schools like GT and Maryland than everyone says. I would guess 95% of the players on both rosters are getting less than $25k.
 
Skydog said:
According to Mike Locksley:

"Unfortunately, we moved in at a time when facilities have been de-emphasized in a recruit’s mind. Because they’d get dressed in the trash can for $25,000.

— Mike Locksley, via The Athletic"

www.outkick.com

Maryland Coach Explains How NIL Made Expensive New Facility Irrelevant

Success on the recruiting trail has a direct correlation to NIL funds in college football. Maryland and Mike Locksley can't keep up!
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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I don't know the answer to this, but why doesn't the Supreme Court decision that created all this NIL stuff also apply to high school football? High School football, especially at big, rich private schools, already offers scholarships to attract players, so why don't they get NIL rights, too?
 
CiraldoForever said:
I don't know the answer to this, but why doesn't the Supreme Court decision that created all this NIL stuff also apply to high school football? High School football, especially at big, rich private schools, already offers scholarships to attract players, so why don't they get NIL rights, too?
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The long answer is nuanced (and in some cases may involve the words "they do" for certain states), but the short answer is "money".

The member schools of the NCAA were clearly approaching college football as a business, signing billion dollar contracts and paying everyone involved except the players. When you're operating a business, many regulations apply, including antitrust regulations preventing businesses from agreeing with each other to not pay employees above a certain amount.

NCAA rules stating that schools and players would be punishes if they received compensation in excess of tuition, room and board, etc., were very clearly in violation of those regulation, so they got the ax. The NCAA tried to argue that college football isn't a business, that it's amateur sports, etc., but that's a tough argument to make when you have your AAs separate from the school and they're pulling billions in revenue and paying coaches millions in salary.

High school football in general isn't at that level of marketability, so they have more flexibility in what they do (and there's less incentive to challenge them.) But in theory the same regulations could apply and I'm sure you will see some top players bring challenges in states where it's currently prohibited.
 
Skydog said:
According to Mike Locksley:

"Unfortunately, we moved in at a time when facilities have been de-emphasized in a recruit’s mind. Because they’d get dressed in the trash can for $25,000.

— Mike Locksley, via The Athletic"

www.outkick.com

Maryland Coach Explains How NIL Made Expensive New Facility Irrelevant

Success on the recruiting trail has a direct correlation to NIL funds in college football. Maryland and Mike Locksley can't keep up!
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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It still matters. He's not wrong that NIL is the game changer, but kids care about the shiny new toys.
 
andrew said:
The long answer is nuanced (and in some cases may involve the words "they do" for certain states), but the short answer is "money".

The member schools of the NCAA were clearly approaching college football as a business, signing billion dollar contracts and paying everyone involved except the players. When you're operating a business, many regulations apply, including antitrust regulations preventing businesses from agreeing with each other to not pay employees above a certain amount.

NCAA rules stating that schools and players would be punishes if they received compensation in excess of tuition, room and board, etc., were very clearly in violation of those regulation, so they got the ax. The NCAA tried to argue that college football isn't a business, that it's amateur sports, etc., but that's a tough argument to make when you have your AAs separate from the school and they're pulling billions in revenue and paying coaches millions in salary.

High school football in general isn't at that level of marketability, so they have more flexibility in what they do (and there's less incentive to challenge them.) But in theory the same regulations could apply and I'm sure you will see some top players bring challenges in states where it's currently prohibited.
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Thank you for explaining that to me. I live in Mobile, Alabama. We have two very well established and very expensive private high schools. They have very expensive campuses and stadiums. I believe their football teams include many scholarship players. Based on what you said, I don't see how those scholarship players could be considered differently than college players. Those schools are surely dedicated to winning football games, and they are happy to spend a lot of money to do it. I can see how public schools could be considered differently.
 
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