Former FSU players sue coach over unpaid NIL

This is a basketball story, but yeah, this half-assed Wild West approach to NIL isn’t working.

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Uncle Mike said:

This madness has to end...and mighty quick!
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this nugget sums up NIL era (error) in a nutshell:

"Back in February, as frustrations reached a boiling point in-season, players staged a walk out during practice before a game against Duke with the intention to also boycott the game. Hamilton held a team meeting and shared that the money would hit the player's accounts the next week, and the team took the court against the Blue Devils, a game that they ultimately lost by 9 points."
 
What kind of NIL agreement doesn't have an enforceable written contract to hold both sides accountable?
 
JerryJacket said:
I thought NIL's were with the collectives, not the schools, so how is the coach liable for a third party not paying up?
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that's because the wild west nature of this entire era. next they will be suing AD's and school Presidents.

don't tell me that won't happen.
 
MEwreck02 said:
NIL is going to get interesting here soon.

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Department Of Education Throws A Wrench Into NCAA Revenue Sharing Model With Title IX Rules Memo

This could possibly be changed or altered in some way when new leadership in the White House begins, but has thrown a wrench into some school's plans for revenue-sharing.
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That is legitimately the most retarded way one could possibly interpret title ix. NIL is financial assistance?!? So, if Dr Pepper pays the Heisman frontrunner to appear in their commercials, the school is violating Title IX because their women's sports stars aren't as prestigious. That won't stand up to appeal.
 
BainbridgeJacket said:
That is legitimately the most retarded way one could possibly interpret title ix. NIL is financial assistance?!? So, if Dr Pepper pays the Heisman frontrunner to appear in their commercials, the school is violating Title IX because their women's sports stars aren't as prestigious. That won't stand up to appeal.
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I haven’t read that much about it yet, but I think it’s specifically calling out NIL money from the school to the student athlete. So your example wouldn’t be affected. I think it’s more about school-run NIL collectives.
 
Is all this going to force the development of minor leagues like in baseball? The universities have to know that this will ultimately drag them into legal and ethical issues. They will have to decide if they are educational or athletic organizations. Bama and some others made that decision years ago. Eventually a wall will have to be built between the two. In Florida, IIRC, the coaches are state employees. There was a minor scandal about Bowdon using the state plane for recruiting trips, also IIRC. If state employees are managing the NIL money, then this will get politically messy.
 
Deke said:
I haven’t read that much about it yet, but I think it’s specifically calling out NIL money from the school to the student athlete. So your example wouldn’t be affected. I think it’s more about school-run NIL collectives.
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This is it. Using school's NIL slush funds to be used equally Those grad student fees are about to see a 3000% increase....
 
MEwreck02 said:
NIL is going to get interesting here soon.

www.outkick.com

Department Of Education Throws A Wrench Into NCAA Revenue Sharing Model With Title IX Rules Memo

This could possibly be changed or altered in some way when new leadership in the White House begins, but has thrown a wrench into some school's plans for revenue-sharing.
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com
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I called it...

gtleviathan said:
I still don’t understand how this situation passes Title IX muster, especially once the schools start paying directly.
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Does the school pay the NIL money? I thought it was "independent collectives" that would collect and distribute the money to players.
 
boozinbuzz said:
Does the school pay the NIL money? I thought it was "independent collectives" that would collect and distribute the money to players.
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The schools do not pay NIL money. The collectives are a 'letter, but not intent, of the law' thing set up by boosters to meet the current rules meant to allow student athletes to accept endorsement deals, but instead use the fuzziness of that language to collectively endorse players as a fan base organization. The player's duties include meet and greets,etc.

In a sense the collectives are a business set up to intentionally monetize the popularity of student-athletes in a revenue sharing model with those athletes. Of course, there's nothing preventing the athletes from accepting endorsements from other businesses on top of compensation they receive from the collectives. Either way, these are legal entities completely separate from the university and athletic departments.

Title IX does not have jurisdiction.
 
BainbridgeJacket said:
The schools do not pay NIL money. The collectives are a 'letter, but not intent, of the law' thing set up by boosters to meet the current rules meant to allow student athletes to accept endorsement deals, but instead use the fuzziness of that language to collectively endorse players as a fan base organization. The player's duties include meet and greets,etc.

In a sense the collectives are a business set up to intentionally monetize the popularity of student-athletes in a revenue sharing model with those athletes. Of course, there's nothing preventing the athletes from accepting endorsements from other businesses on top of compensation they receive from the collectives. Either way, these are legal entities completely separate from the university and athletic departments.

Title IX does not have jurisdiction.
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Isn't there some type of ruling now that the schools can give up to $20 million directly to athletes? I can see that as a title IX issue.
 
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