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[MoverofFridge2]

One individuals opinion for the game versus Clemson.

From the first snap until the last our O LINE was thouroughly and embaressidly WHIPPED last night. Never in my 30 years of following GT football I have seen our O LINE take a whipping like they did last evening.

They got their asses handed to them over and over and over. At first I thought that it was Clemson being a lot better than we were, but as I watched the game progress, it was like our O LINE had fear in their eyes. Why? I wish I had an answer. Several times Clemson blew by our OL like a dose of salt through meat.

Is it coaching? Is it attitude? Is it desire? I have no answers to these questions, but one thing I know for sure......when you line up across from someone you should have the desire to kick the shit out of that individual. And if there is fear or intimidation, which sometimes can be a good thing, you damn sure never show that fear and/or intimidation.

IMO we lost the game up front last night. HELL, look at CU's O LINE, you want to talk about a group who lives and dies for one another take a lokk at that group of OL. They may be one of the best group I have ever seen on the collegiate level. They will flat out knock your ass off. They lost one of their own, and never missed a beat. WHY? Because they banded together and said we are gonna kick your ass and when the night was over they accomplished their feat.

My hope is that Saturday against UM, our O LINE will line up with the intent on KICKING some serious ASS!

Clemson is over, let's alll move on and takae care of business. Our season is in our hands win out and hopefully we get to see Clemson again in about 5 to 6 weeks.

GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEAT THE CANES!!!!!!!!!!

 

[McWreck]

My hope is that Saturday against UM, our O LINE will line up with the intent on KICKING some serious ASS!

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IMO this will certainly be the case. Not just the offense, but the entire team.

 

[Buzzing72]

One individuals opinion for the game versus Clemson.

From the first snap until the last our O LINE was thouroughly and embaressidly WHIPPED last night. Never in my 30 years of following GT football I have seen our O LINE take a whipping like they did last evening.

They got their asses handed to them over and over and over. At first I thought that it was Clemson being a lot better than we were, but as I watched the game progress, it was like our O LINE had fear in their eyes. Why? I wish I had an answer. Several times Clemson blew by our OL like a dose of salt through meat.

Is it coaching? Is it attitude? Is it desire? I have no answers to these questions, but one thing I know for sure......when you line up across from someone you should have the desire to kick the shit out of that individual. And if there is fear or intimidation, which sometimes can be a good thing, you damn sure never show that fear and/or intimidation.

IMO we lost the game up front last night. HELL, look at CU's O LINE, you want to talk about a group who lives and dies for one another take a lokk at that group of OL. They may be one of the best group I have ever seen on the collegiate level. They will flat out knock your ass off. They lost one of their own, and never missed a beat. WHY? Because they banded together and said we are gonna kick your ass and when the night was over they accomplished their feat.

My hope is that Saturday against UM, our O LINE will line up with the intent on KICKING some serious ASS!

Clemson is over, let's alll move on and takae care of business. Our season is in our hands win out and hopefully we get to see Clemson again in about 5 to 6 weeks.

GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEAT THE CANES!!!!!!!!!!

I think we will se BC not Clemson if we get passed Miami.

 

[gtfan1147]

I'm not sure I see BC losing either. And its a shame too, b/c Clemson is the best team in the ACC.

 

[GTWannaBee]

IMO we lost the game up front last night.

Firstly, I do agree that our O Line was pushed back more often than not, but I completely disagree that the blame game should start and end with them. In my opinion (take it for what it's worth), it should start with Reggied Ball. The offense rests on the quarterback's shoulders. When those shoulders are wobbling all over the field in a frantic tail-spin, the offense is going to faulter no matter how good the O-line is. Calvin was WIDE open on several occassions, but RB did not hit him.

The blame train should then take station at the front 7 of our D. Clemson should never have thrown a pass longer than two yards. Our front 7 got manhandled on every snap.

As with just about every game this year, blame should take a break at the O-line and get comfortable. They were pushed back on just about every play. The one series I do remember fully was the TD. There was nothing but time for RB on that series. He could have had a picnic before the DL got to him.

The blame should finally come to a stop and close down for the night at Chang Gailey. We all agree Reggie Ball should not have been in the game. Taylor Bennett may not have been ready, but he couldn't have done much worse. It is the head coaches responsibility to pull players who are not performing.

Just my 5 cents though.

FYI, Calvin did have a few drops last night too.

 

[jacketup]

Preach on MOF2

I posted this on The Hive last week before the game: The OL is holding this team back.

I've seen 5 years of bad pass blocking and I am tired of it. We hung 41 or 42 on Vandy in game 1 of 2002. Pass blocking got worse as the year went on. It has been bad ever since.

I have seen run blocking improve under this staff. Run blocking improved over the course of 2004, and it has this year. Pass blocking has sucked for 5 years.

I wish they would put in Taylor Bennett against the type of pass rush we saw Saturday night just to shut up the clowns who believe that we would do better with an immobile QB playing behind this line. Fortunately, Nix is smarter than that.

 

[goldmember]

Re: Preach on MOF2

I wish they would put in Taylor Bennett against the type of pass rush we saw Saturday night just to shut up the clowns who believe that we would do better with an immobile QB playing behind this line. Fortunately, Nix is smarter than that.

Yea it is really great to have all that mobility so that Reggie could reach the sidelines for a 2 yard loss.

I have given Reggie a LOT of praise this year but he was clearly hurt. i thought Reggie should of been pulled after the first series of the 2nd half...

Oh yea - and anyone that disagrees with me is a complete idiot:laugher:

 

[refrigeratormover]

I don't remember the time of the game but I talked to my brother and dad and after Reggie came up short running the ball out of bounds before the 1st down marker the 2nd time he should have been pulled.

I've never seen him at least not try to get the first down. Very disapointing.

 

[beej67]

I have given Reggie a LOT of praise this year but he was clearly hurt. i thought Reggie should of been pulled after the first series of the 2nd half...

Ditto. When we went to halftime, I told the people I was watching the game with that we should give Reggie one series in the 2nd half to see if the rest he got at the break helped his situation, and if he didn't perform, we should pull him.

 

[jacketup]

Re: Preach on MOF2

Yea it is really great to have all that mobility so that Reggie could reach the sidelines for a 2 yard loss.


I have given Reggie a LOT of praise this year but he was clearly hurt. i thought Reggie should of been pulled after the first series of the 2nd half...

Oh yea - and anyone that disagrees with me is a complete idiot.

The reason to pull Reggie would be to protect Reggie's health. I will defer to the training staff on such decisons.

Taylor Bennett would have had 7 yard losses instead of 2 yard losses. Again, I will defer to the staff on who gives us the best chance to win.

I wouldn't say that most people on internet boards are complete idiots. However, a high percentage of the people posting on this board on Sunday seem to think they know more about football than the GT staff. Idiots, no; ignorant about football, yes.

 

[hiveredtech]

Re: Preach on MOF2

Taylor Bennett would have had 7 yard losses instead of 2 yard losses. Again, I will defer to the staff on who gives us the best chance to win.

As I hope you know though....being a smart instinctive QB is about as good as just being mobile. Godsey, for instance, was able to check out of trouble well...and was effective stepping up into the pocket when the rush came from outside...as it did a few times Saturday night to contain Reggie from running.

We have a lot of executional blame to go around and I am not about to pin it on the OL, QB, or WR's alone.

However, the one darn play where CJ moved into the slot after motion and had NO ONE anywhere near him...and it was 3rd and 4...and Reggie did not even look at him AT ALL. That was an easy pick up for a first down and he missed it.

RB was obviously rattled.

 

[jacketup]

Re: Preach on MOF2

As I hope you know though....being a smart instinctive QB is about as good as just being mobile. Godsey, for instance, was able to check out of trouble well...

We have a lot of executional blame to go around and I am not about to pin it on the OL, QB, or WR's alone.


RB was obviously rattled.

I agree that Reggie lacks poise when the pressure starts coming. It is hard to say that he lacks poise in the pocket since he has played without a pocket for 4 years. If we were a better pass blocking team, then maybe I'd be blaming Reggie for lacking poise. However, as MOF2 stated at the beginning of this thread, that was the worst OL play he has seen at GT in 30 years. I believe that it is slightly more accurate to say that Clemson exposed a weakness that has been around since 2002. Reggie has been hammered over and over since 2003. I can't blame him for losing his cool occasionally. I am not sure that Peyton Manning would have looked any better.

I won't compare the pass blocking situation of 00-01 with the pass blocking situtation of 02-06. The Godsey comparison therefore doesn't sway me. As I stated earlier, pass blocking got worse in 2002, as the OL was being deprogrammed from Mac.

I'm not blaming any of the players, QB, WR or OL. Clemson has better talent than GT on the line of scrimmage. I agree with your ultimate point, which is that you can't blame just the OL or just the QB or just the WR for what we saw Saturday. However, there is nothing that the staff could have done on Saturday to change the outcome of the game, which many people don't seem to understand. Other than improving coaching on the OL, we lost that game 3-5 years ago when Clemson recruited their players.

Lastly, Tenuta's defense doesn't match up well with big power football OLs. UVa's line the last two years was the same way, and we didn't stop them Anoai and Richard are big enough, but you can't play the same 2 DT's all day. As VanNote said, they were really picking on Walker, who is really too small to be a DT. Again, this is a talent issue.

 

[hiveredtech]

Re: Preach on MOF2

I'm not blaming any of the players, QB, WR or OL. Clemson has better talent than GT on the line of scrimmage. I agree with your ultimate point, which is that you can't blame just the OL or just the QB or just the WR for what we saw Saturday. However, there is nothing that the staff could have done on Saturday to change the outcome of the game, which many people don't seem to understand. Other than improving coaching on the OL, we lost that game 3-5 years ago when Clemson recruited their players.

I think we are on the same page. I even said on this board before the season started that I thought this was a "proving ground" year for Coach Nix and Coach D. So far I know where I stand with both...I will reserve final judgement until December 3.

 

[jacketup]

Re: Preach on MOF2

I think we are on the same page. I even said on this board before the season started that I thought this was a "proving ground" year for Coach Nix and Coach D. So far I know where I stand with both...I will reserve final judgement until December 3.

Ditto on all points.

 

[romegajacket]

2 has made some very good points here and any GT fan who cares for GT at all would pretty much have to agree.

But, just to throw a fly into the ointment, I'm going to stretch my neck out on the block here.

We aint too bad guys.

*As you all know, we have an OL that struggles but generally does a pretty fair job.

*We have a QB that has struggled to some degree every since he came to GT.

*Our Special Teams that have been overly challenged.

*We are lacking some in different areas, BUT, I really believe that if we hold the course, keep the present coaches, be patient for a little longer we'll be right where you want us to be.

J.V. Note said what I have felt for a time now. CCG has done good coaching with less talent.

Now that positive changes have been made in the high office of athletics as well as recruiting, I'm saying we are headed for some very good years and very soon.

Losing to Clemson or the last place team in Division II is still nothing but a big ol' "L", and I hate them. But, Clemson has done some fine recruiting lately and it's paying off big dividends now.

Be patient, we're getting there. Slower than we all would like but we're getting there.

 

[Jerry the Jacket]

Offensive Line or game plan?

I really felt our game plan was very poor. We telegraphed the run when we lined up out of the shotgun. We gave up on the run way too early and kept trying passes to the sideline. I really got the feeling that Reggie and or Nix were afraid to throw the ball accross the middle. The fear of turnovers crippled our attack. If a receiver was not wide open on the initial read, Reggie pulled the ball down and was trying to run. I feel the coaches probably drilled no turnovers into Reggie for 2 weeks to the point he was literally afraid to take any chance with the ball. I think because he was injured, he was trying to protect himself by running toward the sideline to avoid being hit. That may have been a coach induced strategy as well.

We never capitalized on anything. We missed the field goal then we got some turnovers and did not capitalize. I think the Defense played poorly but they probably got the attitude of oh well we can't score so let's just hang in there. Tenuta's strategy stunk. We should have went single coverage on receivers and stacked the box. A lot of the formations we were in gave Clemson huge gains once they broke the initial line of scrimmage. Our linebackers were placed outside as if we feared they were going to run the ball wide on us. They rarely did and we never adjusted.

Just a damn poor display of strategy and execution. We had a chance to earn some respect on a National level but instead we proved the critics right. We are a pretender and not a contender.

I truly hope we can turn this around and do like the Falcons did. After the Giants handed them their butts they turned around and played a very good game against the Steelers. We need to do the same against Miami. We can still have a good season but we missed our shot at greatness for 2006.

Go Jackets!

 

[gtfan1147]

Re: Offensive Line or game plan?

but we missed our shot at greatness for 2006.

Go Jackets!

Here is where I disagree Jerry. I believe we still have a shot at a 10-2 regular season. But for the team to break some new ground in the Chan Gailey era, they have to beat Miami Saturday. The Canes are coming off of a lackluster performance at Duke and will be getting all of their suspended players back. They WILL come to play, because they have to. Coker has to. A loss Saturday and Miami's hopes in the ACC are done.

The season, ACC title game, double digit wins, everything hinges on the outcome of this Saturday's game at BDS for both teams.